this is some baller shit man. watching some of these videos of Zelensky and their citizens has totally left me in awe about the pride they have for their country and their ideals. And Poroshenko too. Awesome.
I am wondering if anyone else remembers that time we tried to impeach Trump for withholding military aid for Ukraine? Aid which was considered critical for keeping Russia at bay. The reason Trump did it was widely recognized as based on direct Russian propaganda Hunter Biden conspiracy in a smear campaign against Trump political opponents. All Trump wanted was for Ukraine to make an announcement of stating an investigation prior to the election, for which he didn't even care about the results of said investigation. Republicans ate it up and claimed that the Democrats had TDS, then blocked every attempt. Posters here claimed corruption of MSM and "Big Tech". I feel its important to point out how dangerously wrong all them were on this issue, especially since they will try to use the Trump impeachments as justification to impeach Biden if they take back the House and/or Senate. It should also be pointed out, especially with Trumps recent claims of Putins "Genius" invasion plans, that all the Russian asset conspiracy theories against Trump are turning out to be legitimate. And just for some extra salt to the wound, it also looks like Hilary Clinton was correct in here assertion that Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset. TLDR; Trump used Russian propaganda to deny Ukraine military aid in a direct attempt to benefit Russia's ability to invade Ukraine and try to secure his reelection.
Took me awhile to think back to all of this, when I did I was like fucking wow! There has been such a pile of bullshit with his presidency that its actually hard to remember it all how it was when it happened. I almost feel like this needs its own thread so it doenst get buried in all the Ukraine war news.
Yes but Russia took it yesterday and I have read that if radiation started to spread across Europe it would engage article 5.
It is also critical to note Trump has almost unanimous GOP support and cover for all of this and Republicans like Moscow Mitch were already knee deep with Russian collusion through the NRA. Now Russian Times is using Trump and Fox News soundbites to further propagandize this war to their citizens. Impeached for illegally witholding Ukraine military aid, already appropriated to them by Congress, unless they made up political dirt on Biden. Specifically Ukraine was asking for the Javelin anti-tank systems that are now helping them fend off Russian advancements. Praised Putin constantly, called him a "strong leader", has peddled statements like "he's done a really great job outsmarting our country" Trump dismissed and cast doubt about Russian hacking, particularly when the U.S determined that Russia hacked the DNC in 2016, while ironically enough, he encouraged Russian cyber attacks on national TV saying, "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," When addressing Russian election interference and cyber attacks, Trump proclaimed "I don't see any reason why it would be Russia" after speaking directly with Putin, defending Russia and trusting Putin over our own intelligence agencies. Later he "corrected" himself, claiming that he meant to say "wouldn't" instead of would. Trump suggested the U.S. work directly with Russia on cybersecurity. Trump refused to punish or critique the SolarWinds hack. Almost directly after the 2016 election, Trump sought to weaken U.S. sanctions on Russia, while he was even open to lifting sanctions. Trump dismissed the notion that Putin was a "killer", downplaying the idea that Putin resorts to using violence and oppressive tactics to crush political opponents. He defended Putin, rationalizing his ruthless despotism in the process, declaring, "There are a lot of killers. Do you think our country is so innocent?" Trump shared highly classified U.S. intelligence with Russian officials in the Oval Office in 2017. Trump repeated Kremlin talking points related to the Russian annexation of Crimea, reiterating things like, "The people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were." Trump constantly attacked NATO, aligning himself with Putin. (quite relevant) Trump thanked Putin for expelling hundreds of U.S. diplomats as a retaliation for sanctions. Trump refused to make a statement about the 10th anniversary of the Russia-Georgia war. According to John Bolton, European leaders noticed Trump's silence and "became even more concerned about American resolve." According to congressional testimony, Trump declined to publicly condemn a Russian attack against Ukrainian military vessels in November 2018, even though the State Department prepared a statement for him Trump congratulated and gave legitimacy to Putin's re election win in 2018, a victory said to "lack genuine competition" Sergei Skripal, an ex Russian spy that defected to the UK, was poisoned. Sanctions were announced, Trump attempted to rescind them, while asserting that the U.S. was being "too tough on Putin" When congress passed new sanctions against Russia in 2017, Trump was very reluctant to signing the bill, and probably wouldn't have signed it if the bill didn't pass with veto-proof majorities in both houses In 2017 it was reported that Trump was considering returning spy bases to Russia. Trump praised and highlighted pro-Russian leaders in Europe. Far right European leaders with close ties to Putin. He even met a Kremlin ally at the Whitehouse.
I would expect the US to try this. It was a great move. Pretty much tells us exactly where China stands at this point.
It seemed like Ukraine was getting dominated at first but now it seems like they are at least putting up a good fight which is very commendable It’s hard to know what to believe though
