OT Why Never Trumpers Should Bet on DeSantis Now

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Look, from the posts I've read, I don't really see anyone in here personally doing anything much different than me as it pertains to solving systemic racism issues. I asked in the SOTU thread if Biden had addressed it. Nary a response. I've shared personal testimonies regarding things I'm doing in my sphere, groups I'm supporting, how I conduct my life. I pretty much look at that other stuff as platitudes and political agendas.....from BOTH sides! People in here share that I should take note that I'm a privileged white male. OK, what does one do with that? As I stated, I'm very cognizant of the fact that I am to love my fellow man. I think I do a good job of doing that. Could I be better? Absolutely! Does the fact that I had voted for Trump somehow make me a racist? Uhhh, no. As I mentioned somewhere else, I voted against Hillary and Biden. And, really, who cares? Those things have nothing to do with how I conduct my life and how I treat others....as HUMAN BEINGS. That's what matters most to me.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Supporting racist or bigoted policies and leaders is just as bad as being a racist or bigot. Regardless of if you label yourself or not.

    It's that simple.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    There are no perfect politicians. That said, your definitions may be different than mine. I can live with that.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    There are plenty of politicians who are not racist or bigoted. And luckily with a common language comes common meanings for common words. We have technology which allows us to easily find these definitions.

     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Gee, thanks.

    Just know, though, that just because someone doesn't support CRT, BLM, or the like, doesn't automatically make them a racist, bigot, or the like.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    The definitions in the post you quoted doesn't reference either of those.

    One can choose to ignore how or if those definitions relate to themselves, but it is the actions a person chooses to take which determine if they are applicable.
     
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    Call it how you'd like. I stand by my remarks as stated. Peace.
     
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    I understand that can be an uncomfortable concept. Being uncomfortable isn't a bad thing. It's how we learn and grow.
     
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    I'm not uncomfortable at all. I know I'm NOT a racist and simply because I don't buy into CRT nor BLM doesn't make me one. Period.
     
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    When you want Black historians and novelists banned from schools because they make white people uncomfortable...
     
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    Really?!? Because driving around your new neighborhood and counting the number of black people living there is kinda racist.
     
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    I'm not pushing CRT or BLM. I'm not sure why you keep bringing them up.
     
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    This is what has ABM so upset, this is a BLM website. I have politely asked ABM to read it and then we can have a discussion about it. He refuses. Follows it up with gibberish about BLM and he supports the Heritage Foundation. This is what I mean about listen. Do I agree with everything on this list? No. But some of it makes really good sense and benefits all citizens.

    https://campaignzero.org/solutions#solutionsoverview
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Actually, how you vote is part of how you treat others. That might not matter to you, but it matters to other HUMAN BEINGS.

    Also, I think you are being a bit revisionist in saying you voted against Clinton and Biden. That may be true, but I seem to remember you being pretty enthusiastic about Trump also.

    barfo
     
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    It's something you just normally notice, pal. Don't be naive'.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Good.
     
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    There's a difference between being enthusiastic and fighting against the goads.
     
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    Because they are the latest boogie man/rascist trope that some feel safe to join together and rally against... conservative comfort food. Reading about and gaining understanding of what they actually are might lead one to become more liberal like that Christ guy.

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    I think of Inherit the Wind, based on Scopes Monkey Trial. Prosecuting attorney knew nothing of evolution, never read Darwin, refused to do so, but knew evolution was bad. Like those who won't read 1619 Project and want it banned from school because they know it's bad. Not factually incorrect, any more than Darwin. Just makes them uncomfortable.
     

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