Pelicans pick watch

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  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    They just seem pretty dedicated to getting their young team as much big game experience as possible. I also think they wouldn't because the chances that they end up with a pick even if they tank are going to be really low. If we weren't going to get a pick unless it was top 4 I would want us to be doing everything we could to get to the playoffs.
     
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    No way the Pelicans will fall to the 4th spot. (7 games up in the win column) But possibly to the 5th spot which could give them a chance of getting lucky with the ping pong balls.
     
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    If we end up with their lottery pick and our own do you think the best way to go for Dame Time would be to couple one or both with a youngster like Naz or Simons for that legit proven front line star that defends and scores?
    Or do you hope that one of the two draft picks is a home run front line player?
     
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    I think they'll deal one of the picks and fit Grant into the TPE. I doubt they want to trade Little and I'm certain that they don't want to trade Simons.
     
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    That seems to be the conventional wisdom. But if Collins, Wood, or Siakam is available as has been rumored of at least 2 of those 3, I'd rather have any of them vs Grant.
     
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    Obviously, things can change based upon players becoming available. That said, you have to look at the cumulative difference. Are any of those guys certain to have more impact than Grant plus either Simons or Little? Not sure I’d agree with that.
     
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    Was never suggesting including Nas or Ant....so whomever else came in, would be an addition for the 2nd Lottery pick, just like Grant.
     
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    If we land the 1st or 2nd pick I want Jabari and if not Jabari then Paolo. If we land outside of the top two I think you find out who the highest bidder is on the picks. I wouldn't want to give up Ant with two lotto picks unless a big time superstar was coming back. If we end up with the 5th-7th pick from us and the 10th-12th pick from the Pelicans, I think Atlanta would have to be interested in those two picks (Bledsoe) for Collins and I would do that. I think Collins does the things we need to go from where we were for so long to being a second tier team and although second tier teams aren't top contenders, if things break the right way for them they can go all the way. Obviously in that situation we would need Ant, Nas and Collins to continue to get better.

    Now if we landed the 3rd or 4th pick and had the 10th from NOLA, I think we could get Siakam for those two picks, Hart and Bledsoe. I would definitely do that.
     
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    I think we can trade the Pelicans pick for Grant straight up (using the exemption). I don't think we can package our pick with the exemption because then it would be trading back to back picks or combining a player with the exemption.

    If we do the former trade, our roster could look like this:

    Lillard/Simons/Williams
    Hart/Johnson
    Little/Didi
    Grant/Watford/Brown
    ?

    Plus we'd have Bledsoe's contract and bird rights for Nurkic and Ingles and non-guaranteed contracts for Elleby and Hughes.

    I feel like our first round pick + Bledsoe. I feel like those two could get us something decent (if it's a top 6 pick). I love the thought of going after Draymond if the Ws flame out (in a 3-way where they're getting back something else) then resigning Nurkic to make a last hurrah with Dame. If that doesn't work out his contract is short anyways. It'd be high-risk though given his and Nurk's injury history.
     
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    Id rather have Bey than Grant but he wouldn't be that easy to get.
    Just seems we could do better than Grant with the assets we'd have? If we had to include Ant and a first to get a Star Power forward, Id consider it for sure.
     
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    Who do you consider a star PF? Are any of them available?
     
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    Hard to tell who's available who's not. Depends on what other teams plans are.
    Im not saying we should deal for any thats the GM 's job:
    A. Davis Harris
    Green Randall
    Siakam Portis
    Collins
    Sabonis

    SF's
    Brown
    Bridges

    Centers
    Adebayo
    Capela
    Wood
     
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    Hmmmm. Portis and Collins aren’t stars. Harris could be had immediately. He’s not really a star either but is paid like one. Capela and Wood aren’t stars either. They’re just very good players. In terms of stars you mentioned, Randle or AD could probably be had but we’d have to give up Simons and picks at minimum. Probably have to take Westbrook in the deal too. Dame/Hart/Nas/AD/Nurk contends if AD is healthy.

    I wonder if LeBron could be had. We’d have to sign and trade Simons and Nurk and throw in Nas and all our picks. Dame/Hart/Winslow/Grant/LeBron is probably not enough to win it all but it’d be fun to try.
     
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    Figured you'd pick it apart and find something wrong. Yeah I know they are not all All Star Players but you ask for some names and i gave you some names. By the way all those guys I mentioned are better than anyone we have up front now.
    Geez Louise
     
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    Call me crazy buy IF Lebron wants to leave, I don't think it would be worth Ant + Nas to get him. I think Bledsoe, Nas and a top 6 pick would be relatively fair. Lebron's got maybe two good years left and will get to choose his next team.

    If we could get Grant with our exemption and re-sign Nurk this 7-man core would be nasty.

    Lillard
    Simons/Hart
    Lebron/Winslow
    Grant
    Nurkic
     
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    We can trade the pick with or without Grant, the deal would just have to be agreed by the draft, we make the pick in our name for the other team, then finalized the trade after the pick is made. We can't complete and finalize a trade for the pick prior to the draft.

    Edit; actually this wouldn't apply if we have both our own and guaranteed to have the Pelicans 2022 pick. Then we can trade either one of those at any time. The above would apply if we try to trade both 2022 picks.
     
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    Hey man, sorry for my pissy response to your post! no excuse....peace and love, flower and beads...
     
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    great day
     
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    I'm rooting for Pelicans losses. Yes it increases the chance they keep their pick, but it gives us a better pick if we do get it.

    Now if we were likely title contenders next season I might have a different opinion. In that case, probably safer to get any asset we can. But we aren't close to being a title contender.

    This Blazers team needs some risks to go our way to have any chance at contending. So for the Blazers; higher upside, even if it brings a higher downside, is well worth it!
     

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