Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by THE HCP, Nov 30, 2021.

  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I'm for the rights of the middle class and poor. Simple as that. Gun control restricts the middle class and poor unnecessarily.

    We can prevent far more violent crime and murder by dropping the push for expanding gun control because that argument prevents progress on education, healthcare, climate change, abortion, etc.

    We can do just as much good by only restricting violent people, and the right will not push back on that.

    Trying to restrict all people's rights is the opposite of progressive policy.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    It’s funny how the people trying to ban books don’t think “there’s so many books already out there it’s pointless”
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Banning things millions of people already have and want is generally stupid and pointless...
     
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  4. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    How do you feel about cigarettes?

    barfo
     
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  5. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    They are a personal choice. Like Marijuana. I like the laws that force smokers (of both) outside and away from windows and doors.
     
  6. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    It would be cool if they could force people with guns not to shoot people INSIDE or OUTSIDE.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    That's already a law.
    Smokers still smoke by walkways and windows on occasion as well.

    Laws are a guideline. They aren't really a solution.

    As with cigarettes, education is the largest factor.
     
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  8. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    its funny you think this is an accurate correlation.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    My 14 year old grandson is taking hunter safety which I did when I was 12. It is a good program.
     
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  12. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Shootings are going to go up there.

    No background checks at all? That's stupid.
     
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  13. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    You ever been to Alabama? This is the state that brought you Mo Brooks and Tommy Tuberville. And that’s just the last decade…….
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    As did I. Great program.
    I'd love to see a free federal gun safety course which gives a $200 refundable tax credit upon completion with a high enough score.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Point taken. Felons, violent offenders, and the mentally ill are going to be able to get their hands on guns. Hell it's basically a gun handout. Not a good recipe.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Simple solution would be to make a federal law to mark the ID of every one of those people with a firearms restriction and make it a felony to assist those people in gaining access to a firearm.

    There would be very little republican resistance and it would be every bit as effective as universal background checks.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    There were be a ton of opposition to that, IMO.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Really? How come? How do you oppose that without looking soft on crime?
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Email a few democrat and republican senators' offices and ask them to propose something like that.
     
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    I read an article about it a few years ago. It was on a local news website... WW, Oregonlive, or maybe tribune.

    Not finding it quickly, but basically Democrats don't want it. An Oregon Republican house member suggested it as compromise at one point and the Democrats didn't give her the time of day. Wouldn't even consider it.

    It seems Dems want a database of all gun owners, or don't actually care about making progress on this issue. Maybe both.
     
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