FIRE CRONIN

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  1. BonesJones

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    How much cap space do you think we have? It's probably not as much as you think, and this free agent class sucks, and we never land good free agents anyway. Plus we don't have many tradeable contracts either.
     
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    I don't know why everyone doesn't see this. He had a vision that depended on players he should have known would impact their new team in a big way not impacting that team and while he almost pulled it off, he didn't. On top of that, I don't know how well that vision would have actually worked out. The guy completely failed as an interim GM on the roster building side of things and if that doesn't matter to our ownership and only the salary cutting side of things does fuck them.

    As far as your above post about cap space, we don't have any cap space if we re-sign Ant and Nurk and opt in on Hart. We will have room to use the full MLE but that will completely take the 21M TPE out of play. So that's where we're at as far as results from the trades in February and the subsequent tank. I don't even think getting the first pick salvages this because there is no clear number one in this draft and definitely not a sure fire all nba caliber player even though there will likely be an all nba player or two in this draft.

    There's just no reason for Cronin to have the interim tag taken off of him, they should announce ASAP that they are continuing with the interview process and want to have the results and permanent GM in place before the Draft Lottery on May 17th. Fingers crossed.
     
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    I have a sulking pit in my stomach thinking of the horrendous return got in those trades.. it gets even worse thinking Cronin might actually Be the permanent gm. His performance as gm has been a disgrace. We are the laughing stalk of the league. Might be many years before we pull our self out of this. There is no way we build a contender with dame now with how little assets we got back in our fire sale.
     
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    Shit, I just wasn't on the same track as all of you guys but we just don't have the assets to build a contender around Dame, we don't have them. We only have the ability unless whoever we draft is very quickly a lot better than Dame, to get back to where we were as a team that struggles to make the second round and no further. I mean things outside of my purview could be in play or happen out of the blue but as far as I can see, there just aren't ways without getting really lucky and that even means getting lucky on top of lucky in the case of our draft pick because we would have to get lucky and move up in the draft and get lucky and that player becomes a superstar a lot faster than most forecast any of them will. I don't know why at this point Dame would be cool with depending on luck.

    We just need a new GM that makes some very shrewd decisions because the clever, nice guy moves that Olshey and now his cronies continue to try and pull off are bullshit and end up with us stuck at the bottom of the playoffs... which yes if we're looking at one season is more fun than what we just did but it just can't be the goal.

    I really think with what happened yesterday that any GM candidate that they've been interviewing whose vision was to trade Dame for the best return of young assets possible to go with Ant, our pick, Nas and our other young prospects sure has to be a lot more appealing to Vulcan now that we don't have the means to add our pick and Grant... that ship has sailed. I even think that GM candidate could sell Vulcan on trading Dame lowering our payroll but us still having the same chances to make the playoffs and same slim chances to advance starting next season.

    I really really wanted to win at least one championship with Dame and I really wanted him to only ever play for our team but at this point that doesn't really match up with what his stated goals are and what our teams goals should be.
     
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    So you understand the point.
     
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    Griffin: All right. Where is the Draft pick? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right... and who is dead.

    Cronin: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the pock into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the pick into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

    Griffin: You've made your decision then?

    Cronin: Not remotely. Because pick contingencies come from out of your dark closet, as everyone knows, and your closet is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.

    Griffin: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

    Cronin: Wait till I get going! Now, where was I?

    Griffin: Australia.

    Cronin: Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the contingencies protections, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

    Griffin: You're just stalling now.

    Cronin: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my Nurkic, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Fernandez in the past, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
     
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    I’m still pissed that we traded GTJ.
     
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    I would think Hart, Winslow, Dame are very tradable contracts. Can we do sign and trades with Nurk and/or Simons?
     
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    You mean we only have to wait three years to get the first round pick of one of the best teams in the league? Super!!
     
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    Uh, Dame doesn't count as a tradeable contract because we're not trading him. Hart+Winslow add up to $17M and it'll be hard to extract value out of a Hart deal because he's on a good contract but isn't a rebuild/reset type of player so you'd have to attach assets to that sort of package. Assets that we don't have.
     
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    I'm not, I'm pissed at what we traded the guy we got for him for.
     
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    cronin can not be allowed to stay a single any day longer as our gm. If we are not careful he will throw away any asset we have as soon as he can. Someone might offer a cold turkey sandwich for our first round pick and he will take it. Hopefully he will atleast accept he was not meant for this job and hand in his resignation on Monday so we can try and salvage this disaster. Draft day with cronnin in charge would be a horror I pray we don't have to witness.
     
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    I'd legitimately feel more comfortable with Eric Brandt in charge.
     
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    Be honest. Who in the media could be critical of the CJ deal without drawing a negative reaction? At least Smith's take isn't based on some perverse loyalty to Olshey. (EG Woj or Jaynes)
     
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    No kidding. It's not that Trent was a future star, but we gave up a player who was both servicable and young and wound up with diddly and squat to show for it.
     
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    Uh, jesus....bad day? I wasnt advocating trading Dame and most in here no I never have been, however, he is an asset, and he is tradable at any point, hopefully not for along time.
    Are there sign and trade options with either Nurk and/or Ant.
     
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    wut?

    ok...you lost me. I read the article and all I saw was criticism of Morey and the deal he made for Harden...the guy who had 22 points and 14 assists today. I didn't see any criticism of the CJ trade
     
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    Man! The doom and gloom in here is REDONCULOUS. Chill........ Give Cronin some time. I'm sure as heck glad many of you aren't the GM. We'd be doomed for decades.
     
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