Former Vice President Mike Pence's refusal to get into a Secret Service vehicle during the January 6 Capitol riot is being called "chilling" as the House select committee prepares to reveal its findings sometime before the end of the year. Speaking at a Thursday event hosted by the Georgetown University's Center on Faith and Justice, Democratic Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland, who is also a member of the committee investigating the Capitol riot, accused former President Donald Trump of attempting to organize a coup to circumvent Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election and stay in power. During the talk, he called special attention to a tense moment involving Pence, NBC News reported. After being taken to an undisclosed portion of the Capitol during the riot, Pence's Secret Service agents, whom Raskin suspected were reporting directly to Trump's security detail, asked him to enter an armored limousine. The intent, some have theorized, was to drive Pence away from the building, preventing him from certifying the election results, after he had signaled his unwillingness to go against his duties and keep Trump in power. "[Pence] uttered what I think are the six most chilling words of this entire thing I've seen so far: 'I'm not getting in that car,'" Raskin said. "He knew exactly what this inside coup they had planned for was going to do." This moment was previously reported during an interview for the book, I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trump's Catastrophic Final Year by Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig. According to Tim Giebels, the lead agent inside of Pence's security on January 6, Pence repeatedly refused to be evacuated from the Capitol until the election results were certified, The Washington Examiner reported. "I'm not getting in the car, Tim," Pence said, in response to Giebels' insistence that he enter the armored vehicle. "I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car." Raskin discussed the House select committee's investigation further on Thursday, alleging in no uncertain terms that Trump and his closest confidants attempted to organize a coup following the 2020 election. "This was not a coup directed at the president," the congressman said. "It was a coup directed by the president against the vice president and against the Congress." https://www.newsweek.com/pence-refusing-get-secret-service-car-jan-6-chilling-raskin-1700341
So Republicans potentially hatched a plan to kidnap the VP, vote against certifying the election, storm the capitol, send false electors, threaten state election officials, fuck with the post office, purged the Pentagon, told the DOJ to lie, and floated martial law. But Democrats tried to steal the election?
He tried real hard not to, even approached Dan Quayle of all people to see if there was some way to overturn election. He needs to testify, under oath, in public.
True, but also could have just got in the car and disappeared, throwing the whole process into chaos.
True beans, as much as the guy was a disappointment through the whole thing he had surprising resolve at the end to do the right thing. I don't think he ever seriously considered doing anything other than certifying the electoral results.
I think he thought about it long and hard. Lay the whole situation and process out if he doesn't. If you think the capitol riot on Jan 6th was bad? Go ahead and not certify an election that every judge who looked at it said it was legal. Every recount was verified. The Supreme Court itself could not find fault with a conservative majority. Can you imagine the carnage? Jan 7th would have quite possibly been the end of the US as we know it. I'm very sure Mike Pence knew the gravity of the moment.
I'm glad we didn't have to find out how the left/antifa/blm would react to that. Not so much BLM, but you know what I mean. The right really needs to have a come to jesus moment here (and as someone who is an atheist, I realize the humor in that statement) when it comes to this. They lost. They lost fair and square. It wasn't antifa/blm that was seeding the insurrection. The right has lost like 7 out of the last 8 elections (popular vote total wise). 1. 92 Clinton Bush/Perot 2. 96 Clinton Dole 3. 00 Gore Bush 4. 04 Bush Kerry 5. 08 Obama McCain 6. 12 Obama Romney 7. 16 Clinton Orange Mango 8. 20 Biden Orange Mango It's not like all of a sudden the guy who lost in 16, and was a member of the party that has lost 6 out of 7 popular votes, all the sudden wins in 20.
