I would stay away if it will cost us our first rounder. We just tanked so fucking hard. We need something substantial for this lost year and Simmons is not reliable enough for me. He costs too much for the risk.
I can't honestly believe any of you are actually in favor of putting that "guy" on the Blazers. That's a lot of baggage. An aircraft carrier's worth.
Agree. It’s crazy. Voluntarily adding an unreliable, unstable, $44m guy who doesn’t like basketball seems like a bad move.
I’m thinking we trade out of the draft for Grant. We use our trade exception and sign Marcus Smart. Between Dame, Ant and Smart at guards with Grant, Hart and Nas at wing… we then have to sign a vet PF and re-sign Nurk - makes us pretty tough
If we can get Grant, we should send him to Brooklyn for Simmons if all checks out with him. Would be on Chauncey, Damian and the GM to figure that out.
wut? "We use our trade exception and sign Marcus Smart"....?? Smart is signed for 4 more years after this one...with the Celtics. Can't use a TPE to sign anybody...it's called a trade exception for a reason. Can only be used in a trade. The Celtics aren't just going to give Smart to Portand If Cronin is intending to trade a top-6 pick for Grant, and the Vulcans allow him to do it...then fuck em all
I'm not trying to troll you or anything but was there an explanation on that "quitting on his college team" thing that you were talking about? I heard Stephen A. say the same thing and I really don't know where it comes from. I know he had a shitty game his last game at LSU in the NIT but is there more to it than that?
I’m just going off memory here but I believe his team at LSU had two other pros on it and they didn’t make the NCAA tournament. They declined the NIT. Underachieving so badly and then deciding to just stop the season and not go to the NIT was giving up, and why do that? I think Simmons checked out and was done and wanted to move onto the NBA instead dealing with the NIT. Tim Quarterman I believe on that team too. Some other guy who was good. And Ben Simmons and no postseason? That sounds awfully familiar to the kind of guy we have seen the past two years.
Trading #6 pick for grant would be a disaster for this franchise. At that point we would’ve traded CJ, Powell, RoCo, nance, and others for Grant and Hart. Damn terrible
It wasn't all that long ago that a few of us were saying the actual difference in the value between C.J. McCollum and Simmons wasn't as big as was perceived, and yet we still had fans talking about how we'd have to sell the farm to get the Sixers to take CJ for Simmons. I'd think I was dreaming that except that I still see Blazers fans who say they like CJ still diminishing his impact with the Pelicans by saying it's not CJ, it's CJ playing with Ingram that makes CJ tolerable. Meanwhile, I think just about any knowledgeable basketball executive would think you were off your gourd to trade CJ for Simmons straight up now.
I'm not buying that teams won't want to trade for Simmons. If Pete Davison can keep getting famous women to date him...
Fischer: Any front office ousted from the first round, especially for a team that failed to win a single game, has to consider wholesale changes. Naturally, there is already speculation around the league on whether Brooklyn would entertain trading Simmons this summer. But if teams were lowballing Philadelphia to acquire Simmons, viewing him then as a distressed asset, it's hard to fathom any interested suitor offering Brooklyn the same packages after this postseason debacle. Minnesota was considered the most aggressive team in pursuit of Simmons, but the Timberwolves have since found success elevating Anthony Edwards with more on-ball opportunities. Sacramento consistently called on Simmons, only to pivot to acquire Domantas Sabonis from Indiana. Would the Cavaliers still stomach a Simmons addition after dealing for Caris LeVert and soaring to the top of the Eastern Conference before injuries curtailed a breakout year for the franchise? "Brooklyn just has to play it out a little bit. You don't really have a choice," one general manager told B/R. "I just don't think [Simmons] has any real trade value. He hasn't been accountable for two franchises. He hasn't played an entire season due to a back injury. How can you do a trade with the chance he reports and then says he can't play because of the back again?"
