With the #7 pick, the Portland Trail Blazers select....

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  1. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I compare Duren to Mitchell Robinson of the Knicks. That is not a 7th pick.
     
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    Propagandist Well-Known Member

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    This doesn’t seem right.
     
  3. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah, CJ's advanced numbers were better pretty much across the board, even in Ant's "breakout" season. Ant has a better 3P%... that's about it.
     
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  4. wizenheimer

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    agreed

    as much as I didn't like CJ's game...or rather, his game mixed with Dame...at least CJ established and proved himself over several hundred games. He had established norms that Ant has only matched for a stretch of a couple of dozen games. And, CJ established those norms while sharing the court with Dame. That's something Ant hasn't done yet, and in fact, when CJ came back from the punctured lung and started alongside Ant, it seemed to knock Ant out of his rhythm quite a bit.

    I'm hopeful for Simons. I'm even hopeful, with some reservations, for a better mesh between Dame and Simons than Dame and CJ ever had. But a 25 game stretch is fairly weak confirmation of an established game. At this point, there's quite a bit of hype behind Ant and it's unclear if the hype is justified
     
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  5. JDC

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    Duren is more skilled facing the basket, much better passer.
     
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  6. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    I trade Simons/ '25 pick from Bucks in a sign and trade, for Grant and the #5. Simons is the perfect 2 guard next to Cunningham. Grant is no longer in Detroit's plans and makes too much money. He only gets in the way of Stewart & Beys development. Then i draft Keegan Murray with the #5, and Bennedict Mathurin with the #7 pick. You have a lineup of Nurk, Grant/Murray (depending on readiness), Nas, Mathurin, & Dame. You have Hart(6th man, extended minutes), Ingles, and Murray/Grant in your shortened 8 man rotation. Re-sign Eubanks to back up Nurk, and pick between Watford, Winslow, Williams, Elleby, and whoever you sign as a sharpshooter in free agency for the extended rotation during the regular season. The only way i trade the #7 pick is for John Collins, PERIOD! Grant is a nice role player, nothing more.
     
  7. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    Can't S&T Simons until after the draft is over. At that point, it would look like obvious collusion if that swap was made.
     
  8. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    I think collusion has been standard operating procedure in the NBA for years.
     
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    Yet you never see a S&T with a recent pick.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    A trade of our pick for John Collins couldn't be done either till after as well. But there would be an agreement between the Hawks and Blazers before, and then the Blazers would pick the player the Hawks want at #7.
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Why?
     

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  12. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I assume he's referring to the fact that the Stepien rule says we have to make the pick first. But of course, once we make the pick, we could trade it that night.
     
  13. blazerkor

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    We could even agree to and have the media anounce the trade before the draft, it's done all of the time.
     
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    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    But Collins is under contract. Simons is not.
     
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    also, Bledsoe's salary, even if guaranteed, isn't enough to get the trade done during the draft. After the moratorium it would be enough. Obviously the Blazers could add Brown to the trade and make it work, but the 7 for Collins might be enough on it's own
     
  16. CJ_is_Gone

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    Incorrect.
    Bledsoe + #7 for Collins +16 could happen today if they wanted.

    Bledsoe has a '21-'22 salary of $18.1M. Portland can take back up to an additional $5M in salary.
    Collins has a '21-'22 salary of $23.0M - so it barely fits under the criteria.
     
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  17. RR7

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    Good catch.
     
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    you're right about that....for some dumb reason I was using the formula for a tax-team...125%. But since Blazers aren't a tax-team (and wouldn't be after the trade), they can use 5M
     
  19. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    If Atlanta would consider that, I would do it.

    The move 16 + TPE for Grant.

    Dame/Ant/Grant/Collins/Nurk

    with Hart/Little/Winslow off the bench.

    Still have MLE to fill the rest of the roster, that is super enticing.
     
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  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Man... I still just have a hard time seeing that team as a true contender. I don't know. Would we really be better off than maybe hitting big with the 7th pick?
     

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