Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    All this killing out if rage in since less and evil.
    These school shootings to the guy running over kids in Wisconsin, it all crazy evil.
    When you consider how lacks we are with control and movies and games of violence is it any wonder?
     
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    Because in one respect we're following morals, expanding people's rights while furthering equality, and in the other you're suggesting following a political theory to restrict people's rights, limiting equality.
     
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    Don't blame movies and video games. Come on.
     
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    The only policy that would work is, sadly, a repeal of the Second Amendment.
     
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    So you want this thread to just be "thoughts and prayers" rather than discussions about solutions?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    That wouldn't work. And it's not going to happen in our lifetimes. We have far more effective means available to us.
     
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    Blasphemy, I know, but the Constitution isn't perfect.

    To me, the two obvious flaws are the Second Amendment and the Electoral College. The other MAJOR flaw took a civil war and the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments to fix. It was not designed for easy changes.
     
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    Such as?
     
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  9. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    What about morals in protecting our children? Is there no moral there?
     
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    Sure, protecting your children is moral. Does that make segregation ok? Your kids in a nice white rich neighborhood school are probably safer than in an inner city school...

    So should we promote segregation in the name of our children as well?

    Kids are 20x more likely to be killed by their parents than by a gun at school.

    What are you willing to do to protect those children?
     
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    Increased access to education, healthcare, and improved social safety net would save and improve far more lives than any gun control.

    In times of middle class growth and life improvement violent crime and murder rates drop. Including gun crime and shootings.
     
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    Not tota
    I don’t completely, mostly lack of gun control.
    If you don't think social media and other forms of media violence don't have even a small impact on on someone? What causes suicide and heavy drug use amongst young people? Its a number of things imo.
     
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    Again, the difference is those were expanding rights, not restricting them.

    Restricting rights will never be popular. You'll never get a constitutional convention which carries 2/3 of the states in this country to restrict the rights of every American.

    I understand what you're saying, even if I don't agree with you. But the 2nd ammendment isn't going anywhere. There will be no constitutional convention.
     
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    Any idea in what would cause a young person To do such a horrendous act?
     
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    No. But I've watched plenty of violent movies, and enjoy violent video games. I haven't gone in a killing spree.
     
  16. Chris Craig

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    What the hell are you talking about? Segregation? You know I am against such things. What does that have to do with anything?
     
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    Desperation. Being socially ostracized. Possibly just being a psychopath/sociopath.

    Universal access to healthcare and education could help solve much of this by allowing these disturbed children to be more easily found and helped.

    Children who are helped are more likely to get a better education, have a better future, and not feel so desperate.
     
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    why not?...anything that glorifies killing as a thrill ride and adrenaline rush has an impact on an impressionable young person...not everyone can control impulses the way you may be able too but that doesn't mean playing games where killing is the object doesn't promote killing in mass fashion....in those games you don't just kill one enemy..you kill over and over and over....to say it doesn't impact people on the edge of psychosis is to ignore a problem or possible cause or influence..I think extreme violence as entertainment has had a cultural impact on society. The internet sure has..it's also dehumanized and depersonalized a lot of young relationships and replaced those things with isolated aggression in some cases. I've lived in countries where you can't buy guns or ammo and it's great...much, much, much safer and they don't have 20 elementary kids getting gunned down by teenagers with assault weapons. Fuck our gun laws...they fail us and more importantly innocent people and children...if a video game had you raping over and over and over to win it'd be outlawed but go ahead and kill all the people and monsters you want. Sure not my idea of a good time. When I used to drink I was a happy drunk...my younger brother was a mean drunk who'd look for a fight everytime....The world would still be safer without drunk people period.
     
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    I thought I was being pretty clear. Gun control is racist by nature. It restricts poor and minorities far more than it restricts rich whites. This puts the poor and minorities at a greater disadvantage, and is why Reagan originally supported gun control in California.

    You are talking about restricting the right to defend oneself. That restriction will more severely impact the poor and minorities and will put even more of them in prison. Just like the war on drugs.

    Aside from being racist and discriminatory, prohibition in general doesn't work. It never has.

    Prohibition on alcohol, prohibition on weed, etc... All ended up hurting poor and minorities far more than being legal and made those in power fortunes.
     
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    I don't know the state that he/she/they lives in effectively canceling him because of his sexuality?
     
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