Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Listening to this asshole Abbott talk is making my blood boil. He wants to go as far as say he wants to make it tougher for shooters to enter schools by creating only one entrance/exit, while citing that's the only reasonable preventative measure.

    So much delusion these days.
     
  2. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Watched as much of Texas Moron Abbott's press conference as I could stomach. What a steaming pile of shit. Thoughts and prayers, keep the politics out of it. His take is basically that it is a continuing tragedy that just doesn't seem to have an answer, so pray as hard as you can. What a whitewash (Pun intended). God bless Beto O'Rourke for having the courage to call Governor Asshole out in front of a national audience. Then Governor POS had him physically removed, while the big, fat white, crew cut Joe Bubba "law enforcement" officials surrounding Coward Abbott screamed profanities at him. What a fucked up state. Beto O'Rourke is one of the few (if not only) government official who has actually had the courage to say, "we're coming for your guns." I don't have many heroes, but Beto is rocketing up the list......
     
  3. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Our healthcare and education system is not set up to treat people before they have problems. It is set up to push people into expensive situations that make corporations money. We are especially bad about healthcare and mental health.

    Seriously, do you really think we are on the same level for education, healthcare, and mental health as other first world countries? My argument is that we are not, and that is why we have such high violent crime and murder rates compared to other first world countries.

    Compared to most other high-income countries, the U.S. has a smaller total supply of mental health workers
    https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pu...ns-substance-use-comparing-us-other-countries

    Over half of adults with a mental illness do not receive treatment, totaling over 27 million adults in the U.S. who are going untreated.
    https://www.mhanational.org/issues/state-mental-health-america
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    Shaboid Well-Known Member

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    I don't WANT to see those photos, but if it meant never having something like this happen again, I'd do it.
     
  5. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    But I'm advocating for doing something. I'm suggesting compromise.

    Getting mad and arguing for the same stuff that has never worked doesn't seem to work either. Many states have increased gun control, yet rates are still rising. We had an assault weapons ban for a decade and it didn't make much, if any impact.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I agree.
     
  7. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    You make a lot of good points, but they still negate the fact that we, as a country are awash in firearms. More than any other first world country. So that would tend to skew the hell out of those points if you're using other first world countries as examples of succeeding where we fail.
     
  8. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    And what do you think the odds are that we'll get firearm ownership to the same level of other first world countries in the next 20 years? 50 years?
     
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  9. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    If we could ever elect politicians with actual courage, we would "revamp" (if not actually remove it from the Constitution) the Second Amendment. Confiscate ALL firearms. Or actually hew to the actual wording of the Second Amendment and allow citizens to only possess firearms if they are members of a "well regulated militia". There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the Second Amendment WHATSOEVER that allows any kind of unfettered gun rights. Argue till you're blue in the face. You would still be wrong. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Current Republican ideologies and actions prove my point. My desperation is simply different than theirs......end of discussion from my side.
     
  10. calvin natt

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    But again. These shooters, from what I can tell, HAVE access to education and healthcare. You are arguing a different topic. Our system isn’t good enough. But the ones who are lighting up schools don’t fall into the “they don’t have access to help” bucket. They are quite often 1) students getting educated 2) from families with access to healthcare. It doesn’t matter.
     
  11. SlyPokerDog

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    This shooting is just god calling his children home!

     
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    Those stats include people who have insurance. Even people who have insurance in the US are missed. That's the point. Even if you have insurance in the US you get worse outcomes than other first world countries with Universal Healthcare.

    Much of our insurance doesn't even cover mental health. Our doctors are overworked due to artificial scarcity caused by unnecessary filters in education and licensing, created in the late 90s.

    We need to completely replace our current healthcare system, and that's why I supported Bernie Sanders over the other Dem candidates who just wanted to tweak Obamacare.
     
  13. ehizzy3

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    well it’s a pretty powerful weapon to hunt Humans, as the last 10 years have showed us.

    You aren’t making much sense.

    wrong.
     
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    Source?
     
  15. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Go Beto. Got to call that shit out. Prayers won't solve anything. Action will.

    We can pray all we want that Republicans grow a fucking conscience and vote for actual solutions, but its not going to make it happen.
     
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    ehizzy3 RIP mgb

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  17. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    See school shootings past decade
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    You would bottleneck the entire school as the students all tried to escape from a shooter using the only entrance/exit. Yes, very delusional.
     
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    No clue what that means...

    Hand guns have killed over 1000x more humans than ARs have in the US over the last 10 years.

    I've so far seen it confirmed that the shooter entered with a handgun and a rifle...
     

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