Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    We can do things that the school, but we need to do things outside of schools too. We have to work to stop kids from bringing guns to school in the first place.
     
  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Are we going to use that on all the windows too in the whole school? Are going to put bars up?
     
  3. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Sure there is. Extend the buildings until they intersect. We could give every school in the US $1 million to make these changes for less than $200 billion.
    Drop in the bucket.
     
  4. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You don't think if someone really wanted to get in and shoot, they wouldn't think of shooting the door/lock/window?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I don't see why not use polycarbonate on all windows... it's not new technology. No bars necessary. It'll take longer to shoot through polycarbonate than it would take the police to arrive (assuming police were interested in doing their job). And if there were an armed member on staff it would be a non-starter.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Door locks at schools aren't easy to just shoot out... They are shrouded in steel from all angles. You'd have to have armor piercing rounds (which are srictly regulated) and it would still take forever... And you wouldn't catch anybody by surprise. It would be noisy as hell.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely agree. 100%
     
  8. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    True. They'd try. Probably go for the window. Gotta get those reinforced. Sad that's necessary.
     
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    This is why nothing gets done. Every proposal, all we hear is it's not perfect so don't do it. Nothing is fucking perfect, not seat belts, vaccines, birth control. But all a lot better than nothing.
    If a measure could reduce gun killing by, say, 1/3, that's thousands of lives. Would you just sit back and say don't bother because 2/3 of killing would still happen?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see before and after stats for any gun control that has ever reduced violent crime and murder rates by 1/3. When considering the same rates over the same time frame of similar states, countries, counties, etc...

    I can't find anything close.
     
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    Maybe because we don’t get to do real gun control, due to the NRA and Republicans making anything of substance actionable. We pussy foot around instead of dropping the hammer. Because we are afraid of the NRA money loss.
     
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    NRA to Hold "Republican Pep Rally" in Houston with Trump, Days After 21 Killed in Texas Shooting

     
  13. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Not NRA money loss. Loss of bribes from the NRA. Ted Cruz has to pay for Cancun.
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Would not door locks in schools be a safety hazard if something happens inside and everyone needs out quickly? Like a school fire?
     
  15. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Unless you're hunting innocent children.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    What measure would reduce gun killings by 1/3?
     
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    Welp, there goes that argument.
     
  18. Phatguysrule

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    When the most popular gun becomes the civilian version of the new XM5 the Army is switching to you'll understand what I mean, and why outlawing the AR makes no sense.

    The typical AR has about half the impact force of most hunting rifles.

    It's great for shooting small game if you don't have to do a lot of walking, and awesome for target shooting since you're stationary and the rounds are small.

    A handgun would be far more deadly in a school shooting, and an XM5 (or even semi auto 30-06 like the M1 Garand) would be unspeakably devastating.

    Outlaw the AR15 and that's what will likely take it's place. Carnage on a whole new level. Watch the video I posted above with the watermelons to understand what I mean.

    It's critical we start identifying these troubled people much sooner and eliminating the risk.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Hence, training... Unless there is more to the story that idiot is an accessory.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    No. School doors only lock from the outside. You can open any school door from inside.
     
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