Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It was Facebook I think
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Definitely should have been picked up.
     
  3. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    15 minutes before the shooting.

    He posted that he was going to shoot his grandma and then that he did and then 15 minutes before the school shooting, he posted that he was going to do it.
     
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    Don’t have a gun handy?
     
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    No
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    It was in a gun safe. That's not "handy", by definition.

    So your solution is just get rid of all guns? Or people who have kids can't own guns? Or what?
     
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    Safes are good. Unless your psycho son knows how to get into it. Then you might as well put the gun in the freezer.
     
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    Also not “safe” by definition: having a gun in a home while your son knows how to get into it.
     
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    Safes don't work then. Because if you kill your parents you can get into any safe... Because who the hell is going to stop you?
     
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    How did he kill them? I honestly don’t know. If he killed them with the gun from the safe, then it was useless.
     
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    Seeing there was an exchange of gunfire BEFORE he ran in to the school? And then the cops just...waited outside? I dunno. Good guys with guns not stopping the problem.
     
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  12. Chris Craig

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    Yes, they waited outside. They were too afraid to go in and confront him apparently. They allowed him to go in and murder a class of 4th grade students. Parents outside begged them to go in.
     
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    Those guys don't sound very good...
     
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    By the time the border agent got there, it was too late.
     
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    No, they need to be fired if not more than that. They swore to protect and serve. They protected and served themselves.
     
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    Regarding Sandy Hook, it looks like he had access to a .22. Shot her in the head with it 4 times in her sleep, then left it on the floor in her room and raided the gun safe.

    I don't know if the safe was keyed or combo locked.
     
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    Put them in jail. Charge them as accessories. Inexcusable.
     
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    Texas cops are accused of IGNORING woman's frantic pleas to storm elementary school as 19 children were being shot dead inside – with dad of one victim saying: 'They didn't do a darn thing until it was far too late'
    • Jacinto Cazares's daughter Jacklyn was among the 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde shot dead Tuesday by Salvador Ramos, 18
    • Cazares wants answers as to why the first 911 call came at 11:32am, and yet Ramos was not shot dead until 1pm
    • One man who lives opposite the school said that a woman was yelling at the police: 'Go in there!' - but they did not
    • The school had armed security, yet Ramos was still able to get in: multiple officers were shot by Ramos, who was wearing body armor without plates
    • The city of Uvalde is 80 miles west of San Antonio and the same distance from the border with Mexico: Border Agents were among those who responded
    • Texas's director of the department of public safety said: 'Obviously, this is situation we failed in the sense that we didn't prevent this mass attack'
    • He added: 'But I can tell you those officers that arrived on the scene and put their lives in danger — they saved other kids. They kept him pinned down'
    • Relatives, school friends and colleagues of Ramos have described the high school dropout as a bullied, angry loner who argued with his family
    The father of a 10-year-old girl murdered in her Texas classroom on Tuesday has demanded to know why the gunman was able to rampage through the school for 90 minutes until he was shot dead, as it emerged that onlookers urged the police to enter the building - but they did not.

    Jacinto Cazares's daughter Jacklyn was among the 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde shot dead by Salvador Ramos, 18.

    The first 911 call was received 90 minutes earlier, at 11:30am, saying a man had emerged from a crashed vehicle with a long rifle and a backpack.

    'There was at least 40 lawmen armed to the teeth but didn't do a darn thing until it was far too late,' Cazares told ABC News.

    'The situation could've been over quick if they had better tactical training, and we as a community witnessed it firsthand.'

    One woman was yelling at the police outside the school, said Juan Carranza, 24, who lives opposite.

    He said she was screaming: 'Go in there! Go in there!'

    Carranza said the officers did not go in.

    Cazares said he wanted answers from local authorities as to why the shooter was not stopped before or during the attack.

    'I'm a gun owner and I do not blame the weapons used in this tragedy,' he said.

    'I'm angry how easy it is to get one and young you can be to purchase one.'

    The massacre is the worst school shooting in the United States since Sandy Hook in 2012, when 20 children and six teachers were killed.

    Ramos on Tuesday first shot his 66-year-old grandmother Cecilia Gonzalez in the face, leaving her severely injured, before stealing her pickup truck and driving towards the school.

    Unable to drive, he crashed into a ditch and then ran to the school on foot, where he was met by an armed security guard.

    Yet he was still able to enter the school and kill 21 people - and was not stopped until around 1pm, when a Border Patrol agent backed up by a tactical team shot him dead.

    One of those involved in training schools how to deal with an active shooter lost his wife in Tuesday's tragedy.

    Ruben Ruiz, 43, a veteran detective and SWAT team member, works as a police officer for the school district, and on March 22 held an active shooter drill at the school.

    His wife Eva Mireles, 44, was one of the two teachers killed by Ramos on Tuesday.

    Uvalde, home to 16,000 people, is 80 miles west of San Antonio.

    Steve McCraw, director of the Texas department of public safety (DPS), said on Wednesday that a 'brave' school resource officer 'approached him' and 'engaged him' - but added that 'gunfire was not exchanged.'

    He did not explain why.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...im-slams-police-failing-stop-gunman-HOUR.html
     
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    Timeline of a massacre: How events unfolded in Uvalde, Texas

    11:32am: A mass casualty incident - later discovered to be the shooting - takes place at Robb Elementary School. The school reports it is locked down because of 'gunshots in the area.'

    12.17pm: The school posts a message on social media writing: 'There is an active shooter at Robb Elementary.'

    12.38pm: A reunification site is set up at the Willie DeLeon Civic Center.

    1.06pm: The Uvalde Police Department reports the suspect is 'in police custody.'

    2.47pm: Uvalde Memorial Hospital posts an update to Facebook that said it had received '13 children via ambulance or buses for treatment. Two children have been transferred to San Antonio, and one child is pending transfer. Two individual that arrived at UMH were deceased.'

    3pm: Gov. Greg Abbott identifies the suspect as 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, saying he abandoned his vehicle and entered the school with a handgun and possibly a rifle. He then confirms that at least 14 students and one teacher were killed.

    3:56pm: University Health San Antonio says a 66-year-old woman and a 10-year-old girl are both in critical condition.

    4.17pm: Uvalde police confirm the suspected shooter is dead and he is believed to have acted alone.

    6.06pm: Vice President Kamala Harris addresses the shooting, calling for 'reasonable and sensible public policy to ensure something like this never happens again.'

    6.25pm: The number of children killed in the massacre jumps to 18 as authorities confirm that the shooter was killed and the shooter's grandmother is in critical condition.

    6.55pm: It is confirmed that the shooter bought two long guns on his 18th birthday.

    7.12pm: Chris Olivarez, with the Texas Department of Public Safety, confirms the shooter was swearing body armor and used a long rifle in the shooting.

    7.13pm: Fourth-grade teacher Eva Mireles is confirmed to be one of the victims.

    7.43pm: President Joe Biden gives televised remarks on the shooting, asking the nation to pray for the victims and their families and saying the nation has to ask: 'When in God's name are we going to stand up to the gun lobby?'

    He demanded Congress act on 'common-sense gun laws'

    7.50pm: It is confirmed that an agent with the Border Patrol Tactical Unit, a specialized unit within the US Border Patrol, shot and killed Salvador Ramos.

    8.57pm: Death toll increases to 19 children and two teachers killed in the attack.
     
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    "Brave"
     
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