Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    They are traceable, but it's apples to oranges. Cars are sold for the purpose of driving, and tend to be driven every day. Lots of people buy guys for antique/collection, and some will collect them for self defense/murder, etc.

    I dont know how they'll be able to trace private sales (unethical sales) for guns that aren't used on a regular basis, etc...Should guns be registered like a car, insured like a car, and the owner be liable for certain things? Yes.

    Just don't know how they'd ever be able to do it, due to the insane # of them out there.

    I know, we should just offer thoughts and prayers and call it a day!


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    (not saying you said that)
     
  2. RR7

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    I dont think anyone should be buying or collecting guys, but that's just me.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    You do understand that in Oregon private sales have to do a background check, right? Adding in an additional gun and rifling registration would not be impossible.
     
  4. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's the fact there are 400 million guns, that's what I'm talking about why it's going to be super difficult.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    When you purchase ammo you have to give the registration number of the gun(s) you are purchasing it for. If you lie and that ammo is found to be used in an unregistered gun there is an additional criminal penalty, it is a felony and ends your legal gun ownership.
     
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    I'm 100% with you on all of this, however, what about when Carvana hides the vehicle history from you.... Sorry, wrong thread.
     
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  7. Phatguysrule

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    Students aren't psychotic killers. Being close to a gun doesn't make a person want to kill. That's just not how it works.
     
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    But isn't that the point, the records on your car eventually caught up with the fraud that Carvana was committing.
     
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    I hope you're not referring to anybody in this forum. I have seen no evidence of that.
     
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    If we dropped everything else (no push for increased access or education, give up on universal Healthcare, workers rights, let abortion rights go away, forget about gay marriage, etc) and put all of our efforts into this it would still take decades to get it through.

    And no gun control short of this will make anything more than a "statistically insignificant" difference.

    You aren't going to get rid of hundreds of millions of unregistered guns. Many of the registered guns will be "lost in a hosting accident", and you will have to take guns away from literally millions of Americans who have been raised to fight for their gun rights of police come to take them. They view it as a life or death situation, and they will fight to the death.

    Police aren't at all interested in that.

    I get what you're saying, it just breaks my heart these kinds of things are going to keep happening because we simply refuse to set up better systems to catch people at risk of this behavior...
     
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    Are teachers allowed to carry in class? I was unaware of that.
     
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    The school has no fence around it, even play area.
    Airports, court houses and sporting events all have entry points of security with detectors.
     
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    No, many people carry in cars and road rage very rarely ends in anything like that.
     
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    Yes, exactly.
     
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    They can't. It's just not something that can logically happen to the point that we stop enough psychos from getting guns to avoid a school being attacked like this every now and then.
     
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    The meaning of the 2nd amendment was confirmed by the Supreme Court in 2008... It'll likely rule again to restrict states rights to enforce gun control in the next year or so.

    It'll take a constitutional convention to do more. And 2/3 of states will have to approve the changes.
     
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    If we can't count on police then we'll have to count on ourselves.

    There is no in between. Either we fix police or more people will want guns. Gun ownership rates have been climbing for the last few years (since it became obvious the police are useless)...
     

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