The CDC has said that there are 500,000 to 3,000,000 defensive gun uses per year in the US. How many children would have died if gun rights were restricted? Improving our Gini Coefficient would reduce gun crime immensely, saving 10s of thousands of lives per year, thousands of children.
I think we should release any/all persons who are in prison on personal use drug charges…..and provide them w/ the medical care/support they need. Then create strict gun laws that mandate thorough back ground checks and intense training programs. Then outlaw all automatic weapons and high capacity magazines. Provide financial compensation for any and all guns turned in. Then fill the available space in the prisons with the people who break these new gun laws. Never ever going to happen….but the dude doing a 20 year bid as 3rd time weed offender is far less of a threat than the dude with a basement full of AR 15s and armor piercing ammo.
I don't think you're going to be able to do anything like that unless you get the supply low enough that guns are rare. We need to help those kids before they get to that point if we want to make an impact here...
How many kids are saved in countries with significant gun control? Now, how many are lost? Now let's compare with the United States. Math is fun.
I agree with nearly all of that. I'm 100% cool with gun buybacks. I don't think they are effective, but if somebody wants to sell there gun for below market value that's on them. I don't think any action on law abiding citizens use of guns is going to happen nationwide. Not in our lifetimes. Including universal background checks. And many states with very strict background checks have some of the highest violent crime and murder rates. I understand that there arguments as to why that would be, but that isn't going to convince the other side, so this another sticking point that will prevent anything productive from actually happening. I could see the intense training happening (and I'm all for it), if it were offered with compensation, like a tax credit. It is already illegal to sell or alter any guns to make them automatic, unless you submit to a very thorough and expensive licensing process with the ATF. High capacity magazines can be made in a couple hours. They are incredibly simple devices, not to mention it's very easy to transport them across state lines in VERY large qty. So if nothing happens nationwide... it's kind of pointless. But I don't have or use high capacity magazines, and changing the magazine takes less than a half a second, so this isn't a sticking point for me. This is just another red herring argument that prevents progress on the real issues, IMO.
Well, violent crime and murder rates here in the US dropped more in the following 15 years than both the UK and Australia after both the UK and Australia instituted sweeping gun control...
... and yet... intentional homicide rate is 4 times higher in the US vs. the UK, 4.7 times higher vs. Australia murder rate is 18 times higher vs the UK, 57 times higher vs. Australia
I'm not sure what that means... Here is the data... Sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate_by_decade https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-1 http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=crim_off_cat&lang=en http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/auss...8BCDCF9DCA2578B700119690/$File/45100_2010.pdf
Intentional homicide rate in the US has been higher those countries ever since WW2, when most 1st world countries drastically increased their social safety nets. So those numbers track... Russia's intentional homicide rate is 4 times higher than ours, and guns are basically illegal there. If people want to kill they figure out a way to do it. And the diversity in the US is far more like Russia than the other countries.
