So a lineup where four guys are going to want to score and the fifth guy pouts when he doesn’t touch the ball once a possession? I don’t think there is a need for both guys. OG is a better player than Grant, but Grant will cost less and, when he feels like it, does fill our need of a guy that can defend well and is also as tall as the biggest SFs in the league. This is where the “friendship” card would factor into my judgement. If Grant already costs less than OG and his friendship with Dame could lead to him playing well and being happy here, then why not. Would much rather bring in someone with high potential with #7 or trading down with the same intent than trade it for OG. Mathurin is one name off the top of my head that could contribute right away for our team and is cheaper/younger than OG.
the "others" who think it would require John Wall need to explain how the hell that would happen. He's making 44.3M meaning the Blazers would have to send out 35.5M it wouldn't even be a legal trade if it was Bledsoe + Hart + Winslow. It would have to be something like #7 + Bledsoe + Hart + Winslow + Louzada/Johnson for #3 + Wall. As a bonus, this would add about 12M more salary for next season. That would be a dumb trade
Nbadraftroom’s updated mock: #3: “Ivey to the Rockets might be a strange fit but it’s seeming more likely that he’ll go top 3. A trade could be coming here.” #4: “Another potential trade spot, with a team moving up for Paolo or Jaden Ivey at no.4.” Maybe there is something to the Paolo rumblings
NY is all over trying to move up to get Ivey. The issue is, the price is Wall's contract, and New York has no desire (or real ability) to take that on. That is Portland comes in....possibly. There are some cap gymnastics to make it work, and it seems unlikely to work out.
as far as I can tell, the Blazers don't have the room to do gymnastics to take on Wall it's pretty simple...they'd have to trade Bledsoe + Hart + (one of) Winslow/Little + (one of) Louzada/Brown/Watford in orderm to absorb Wall now, if the Knicks are willing to dump Randle because of salary issues, he'd fit into Portland's TPE
I would assume Houston doesn't want the long term salary of Randle... NYK have Obi waiting in the wings - so the need to send Randle out as salary ballast. Randle has a $23M base salary. It is too big for the TPE. He also has a 'Likely' bonus of $2.3M where he has to make all-star, the playoffs, & 65+ games played. The only way to get Randle in is to send Bledsoe out
I didn't know about the bonus. But his current salary is 19.8M so that would fit into the TPE I'd much prefer to send Bledsoe though. I'm inclined to not use half of the big TPE on Burks; No need to add him and his 10M salary into the deal IMO
Yep, and from what I'm seeing/hearing, Randle wants out of there. The relationship just went bad. I think they'd like to get salary relief. That's why I was thinking salary relief and 7 for Randle and 11. Then 11 and salary relief for Grant. I honestly don't know how we could add more talent and balance the roster better than that. And both of those guys are available for packages like that...
In the proposed trade above we are facilitating a NY/HOU trade by taking on a ton of money. I say we keep 7 and let NY/HOU swap firsts.
Don't love it. Would haggle to keep keon, though that's probably stupid. At the same time, we can likely get someone we like just as much at 11, and gain another future pick, which would be nice.
I suppose Obi is the cautionary tale for drafting someone like Keegan. Older sophomore, had ridiculous stats at a program where he was forcefed high usage, but never really gained traction in the NBA. His advanced numbers in the NBA still look decent (except for rebounding). I never really paid much attention to NY so I dunno how much of his lack of raw production has to do with Thibs not playing youngins. His stats have been really good when he as played. Julius Randle also prolly gets in his way.
Except the Knicks want to dump Randle and keep Toppin. He had a brief Ant-like stretch at the end of last season that has them thinking he might be the player they were hoping he was. 20/20/19/35/42 on 55% shooting and 46% from '3'.