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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    That is common sense though
     
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  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If the blazers were using common sense, we WOULD trade Dame.
     
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    ftfy
     
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  4. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    7 for 12, Dort, filler, then 12 and Bledsoe for Grant.
     
  5. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Ugh! I'm not saying you're wrong because this seems very plausible but if this is what we do we are leaving ourselves really small in the starting lineup again and with four heavy rotation players (Dort, Grant, Nas and Justise) we have to extend, re-sign next off season or let walk.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Ugh. That hurts my head.
     
  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    unless we have a deal lined up for Hart, i don't buy the Dort stuff whatsoever. think we might have kicked the tires on him, but the fit makes very little sense.
     
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    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    I'm not thrilled with Dort and 12 unless I know Sharpe is off the board and I'm getting Sochan at 12.

    And I'm a fan of Dort.
     
  9. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Dort is glorified Hart. Put up decent numbers because someone has to score for the Thunder. Defensively they’re very comparable
     
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    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    If we trade the #7 for Dort we’d be the laughing stock of the NBA.

    When you’re a market like the Blazers you have to hope the front office does it’s due diligence and then play the dart board of the draft. Especially with a top 10 pick. Unless you’re getting a bonafide star or star on the cusp.

    Dort is not that. Solid role player. A cute piece on a team like the Warriors
     
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    My thoughts on using our best asset on Dort...

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  12. TBpup

    TBpup Writing Team

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    If there is a #7 for Dort + #12, you have to think there is one of the future 7,342 Draft picks OKC that would also be included.
     
  13. wizenheimer

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    which two?

    2022 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
    L.A. Clippers' 2022 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

    2022 first round draft pick from Phoenix
    Phoenix's 2022 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [Oklahoma City-Phoenix, 11/16/2020]

    2023 first round draft pick from Denver
    Denver's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-14 in 2024 and 1-14 in 2025; if Denver has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2025, then Denver will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick and 2026 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020]

    2023 first round draft pick from Detroit
    Detroit's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City (via Houston) protected for selections 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021]

    2023 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers (swap, Oklahoma City outgoing)
    Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2023 1st round pick for the L.A. Clippers' 2023 1st round pick [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

    2023 first round draft pick from Washington
    Washington's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City (via Houston) protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021]

    2023 second round draft pick from Dallas or Miami (more favorable)
    Oklahoma City will receive the more favorable of Dallas' 2023 2nd round pick and Miami's 2023 2nd round pick (Oklahoma City may convey this pick to New York (see Oklahoma City Outgoing)); Boston will receive the more favorable of (i) Houston's 2023 2nd round pick protected for selections 31-32 and (ii) the less favorable of the Dallas pick and the Miami pick and Indiana will receive the least favorable of the three (via Miami to Dallas; via Memphis' right to swap Dallas or Miami for Houston); if the Houston pick falls within its protected range, then Houston's obligation to Boston will be extinguished and Boston will instead receive the less favorable of the Dallas pick and the Miami pick and Indiana will instead receive the Houston pick [Dallas-Miami, 7/7/2017; Dallas-Memphis, 7/8/2019; Houston-Memphis, 2/6/2020; Boston-Memphis-Portland, 11/20/2020; Dallas-Detroit-Oklahoma City, 11/27/2020; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021]

    2023 second round draft pick from Washington
    Washington's 2023 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City (via New Orleans) [New Orleans-Washington, 2/7/2019; Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020]; Oklahoma City may convey this pick to New York (see Oklahoma City Outgoing)

    2024 first round draft pick from Houston
    Houston's 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2024 2nd round pick and 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

    2024 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
    L.A. Clippers' 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

    2024 first round draft pick from Utah
    Utah's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-10 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026 (if Utah has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2026, then Utah's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished) [Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 1/4/2022]

    2024 second round draft pick from Charlotte
    Charlotte's 2024 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City (via New Orleans) [Charlotte-New Orleans, 11/19/2020; Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020]

    2024 second round draft pick from Minnesota
    Minnesota's 2024 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Minnesota-New York-Oklahoma City, 11/20/2020]

    2025 first round draft pick from Houston or L.A. Clippers (swap, Oklahoma City outgoing to Houston, L.A. Clippers or Brooklyn)
    Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2025 1st round pick for Houston's 2025 1st round pick protected for selections 1-10 or the L.A. Clippers' 2025 1st round pick; Houston then has the right to swap its pick or the Oklahoma City pick for Brooklyn's 2025 1st round pick; if the Houston pick falls within its protected range, then Houston's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished and Houston will instead receive the more favorable of its pick and the Brooklyn pick and Brooklyn will receive the less favorable of the two [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021]

    2025 first round draft pick from Miami
    Miami's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City (via L.A. Clippers) protected for selections 1-14 in 2025 and unprotected in 2026 [L.A. Clippers-Miami, 7/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Miami-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2022]

    2025 first round draft pick from Philadelphia
    Philadelphia's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-6 in 2025, 1-4 in 2026 and 1-4 in 2027; if Philadelphia has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Oklahoma City by 2027, then Philadelphia will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Philadelphia-Oklahoma City, 12/8/2020]

    2025 second round draft pick from Atlanta
    Atlanta's 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Atlanta's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished) [Atlanta-Oklahoma City, 11/24/2020]

    2025 second round draft pick from Boston or Memphis (more favorable)
    Oklahoma City will receive the more favorable of Boston's 2025 2nd round pick and Memphis' 2025 2nd round pick and Orlando will receive the less favorable of the two (via Memphis to Boston) [Boston-Memphis-Portland, 11/20/2020; Boston-Orlando, 3/25/2021; Boston-Oklahoma City, 6/18/2021]

    2025 second round draft pick from Philadelphia
    Philadelphia's 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021]

    2026 first round draft pick from Houston
    Houston's 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

    2026 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
    L.A. Clippers' 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

    2026 second round draft pick from Dallas and/or Philadelphia (two most favorable of these and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City outgoing to Miami)
    Oklahoma City will receive the two most favorable of its 2026 2nd round pick, Dallas' 2026 2nd round pick and Philadelphia's 2026 2nd round pick and Miami will receive the least favorable of the three (via Oklahoma City) [Dallas-Detroit-Oklahoma City, 11/27/2020; New York-Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 3/25/2021; Miami-Oklahoma City, 2/9/2022]

    2027 second round draft picks from Houston, Indiana and/or Miami (three most favorable of these and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City outgoing to San Antonio)
    Oklahoma City will receive the three most favorable of its 2027 2nd round pick, Houston's 2027 2nd round pick, Indiana's 2027 2nd round pick and Miami's 2027 2nd round pick and San Antonio will receive the least favorable of the four (via Houston to Detroit to Oklahoma City; via Utah to San Antonio) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Detroit-Oklahoma City, 3/13/2021; Indiana-Oklahoma City, 11/25/2020; Miami-Oklahoma City, 3/17/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Portland-San Antonio-Utah, 2/9/2022]

    2028 second round draft pick from Utah
    Utah's 2028 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Oklahoma City-Utah, 7/30/2021; Oklahoma City-Utah, 1/4/2022]

    by the way. OKC has all of their own first's as well. Their 2023-2025 2nd's are gone though. So that means they have 21 first round picks & swaps and 14 second round picks
     
  14. MickZagger

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    Sounds like hoarders. I bet they lose track of what they got while they’re still negotiating for more.
     
  15. illmatic99

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    also diminishing returns. they lose value when they've monopolized the market of all picks with a finite # of roster spots and guaranteed contracts.
     
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    At some point you’d think they’d want to consolidate for actual appreciable talent.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    lol did Atkinson get scared straight after seeing the Bridges/Harrell drug fiasco?

     
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    Would you be happy with these two trades?
     
  19. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    You are correct, that's just plain silly. It won't be until mid season when we are 10 games under .500
     
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    Foundation for a rebuild and foundation to win now are very different things.

    Ant is a great option because he is young and has displayed high potential. Of course there's major questions and small sample size, if there wasn't hed already be a star. If he realizes the potential that is great. If not the team loses and gets better draft picks to search for a new foundation.

    An Ant/Brown/top3 pick have championship rebuild potential many years from now. Dame and Ant aren't close to that level.
     
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