Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    That gym is where Beckner runs his workouts, so if he was there it’s a good bet he was working with him. Makes Marangutan’s claims even funnier. Someone should call him out on it.
     
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    This idea that he won't be ready to contribute right away is a bit premature. He won't be a finished product, but he could certainly be ready to contribute right away.

    His trainer seems to think he is more polished than SGA and RJ Barrett (both guys he also trained) were at that age. Anthony Edwards is another comp that some have thrown out. They are very similar in terms of their measurements Edwards did have 20 lbs on him as a rookie though. But Edwards put up 19ppg his rookie year. They made the playoffs in his 2nd season (not saying Sharpe's going to average 19ppg as a rookie. But he should hopefully be able to be a contributor right away). IF this kid is as good as we hope, the timeline for him might not be what people think. He seems much more ready to go than someone like Simons was at that age.
     
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    It's for sure him. Don't be scared! Great work!
     
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    Ffs. Bizarre interpretation.
     
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    Stop it. Everyone knows what that means.
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    lol what would i be scared of?

    Regardless if it really is shaedon, i'm just glad it indicates dame potentially taking him under his wing. Sharpe's work ethic was my biggest question mark. If he can tag along with Dame and Ant to Beckner's masterclass, then we should probably be more confident about this pick.

    Also a nice anecdote that any reason for Dame to be upset over the selection is false. Woo's report also confirms that.
     
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    I'm almost 100% a take the player who you think is going to be the best overall regardless of position, but in this particular case with how much has been said about needing bigger wings and not wanting to play small if they don't have to (i.e. Hart at SF), plus the mystery of Sharpe being a complete unknown in terms of readiness to play, I too questioned why the risk was taken by the Blazers given their situation and needs.

    However, I can live with the BPA strategy if everyone involved is aligned in thinking that Sharpe has star potential. Dame being on board erased my fears about Sharpe's BBIQ and I am walking back my comments from the other night about him. I was wrong to judge him on a few random interviews.

    I still don't know how this is all going to work out and I really hope Ant (who I think is going to be a star) doesn't have his role reduced because of this. It's similar to if we would've taken Donovan Mitchell in 2017. Does he become the same player behind Dame and CJ? If you're good, you'll find a way. I think having too many stars is ultimately a better problem to have than not enough.
     
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    I pretty much agree, but the question was what would make more sense when combined with the Grant trade. If the Blazers are really still in win now mode, it makes sense to go with the lower risk/lower reward/more developed player. Just remember this is coming from someone who wouldn't have made the Grant deal, so it is clearly biased.
     
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    I don't. Does it mean he won't be ready to contribute at the start of the season but should get the hang of it in the first couple of months, by the allstar break, by the playoffs? Does it mean that he won't make meaningful contributions until his sophomore season? Does it mean like Ant that he won't really be impactful until his fourth season?

    Regardless it's pure speculation. Let's see what he looks like in Summer League.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Just want to call out that Sharpe said he had never spoken to Dame. Ever. He said he hasn’t really spoken to any NBA player.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    You mean officially, on record, he hasn't. If you believe random IG posts that is clearly a lie.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    That Nas in the last photo?
     
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    don't think that's nas.

    btw, does anyone else remember the welcome to Oden the day after the draft in Pioneer Square? I was taking summer classes at PSU and walked over. Felt like we just won a title.

    All downhill from there.
     
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    We need unknown and unproven variables. We're not getting to contention unless we take some high-risk, high-reward chances. If Sharpe and Ant can fulfill their vast potential, all of a sudden Dame's window becomes 6 or 7 years because then I think Dame will still be good enough to be the 3rd best player on a championship team.
     
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    It means Sharpe's developmental timeline doesn't seem to fit in with the timeless of our expressed plan and thus the surprise at the pick.

    This is so frustrating, everyone acting like this makes sense.
     
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    Jason Kidd won a championship at 37 years old, playing 36mpg and starting in 80 games that season. Why is it championship or bust this year or next? Dame will likely still be good at 34, 35, 36 years old. Give the young guys 2 years to grow and help Dame win it. There is no path for Portland to win this year or likely next. There is hope at the end of that tunnel though
     
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    I like this way of thinking, and agree with it. Not that what I think means squat.....

    I'm just here to get information, and watch you guys bicker around each other.... :biglaugh:
     
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    This is giving up on Dame being the guy, which is insane: he is the only known quantity.

    6 or 7 years? How incredibly optimistic and equally disconcerting. To me that is you saying we are kicking the can. Then why trade for Grant, why sign Nurk? Maybe why keep Hart? Isn't Nas in the way of Sharpe, isn't Hart and Ant? I don't know, man...
     
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    I think the Blazers think it is good enough to compete soon given Dame being healthy and how well some of those players played for a few games after the deadline. It's crazy to put that much stock into it, but I think they're going the strategy of build a solid foundation (Nurk, Grant, Hart) and hope a couple of the young guys pop (Nas, Ant, Sharpe, Watford, Walker). I agree with you that it seems unlikely, but given the situation it is probably their only real chance is to take big risks and hope at least a couple of them go to the moon.
     
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    Now we are firmly in fantasy land. So, instead of trading 7, we are going to develop these guys, with a minutes crunch, with Dame playing the way he does, with Nurk wanting touches and Grant now, for the possibility that a kid we drafted is going to propel us into contention when our actual star is over the hill, instead of finding a way, mortgaging/trading/whatever to get better in the meantime while he is in his prime?
     

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