Politics The Supreme Court's week of big decisions

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  1. Hoopguru

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    Is it cool to be a Black or Brown Christian?
     
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    I don't think the result of this ruling will be a
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    As far as I can tell, states will still be able to require a concealed carry permit, correct?
     
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    I think it's fine to be whoever you are. And let me be who I am.
     
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    I will vote for you to the SCOTUS. Now, you just need to vote for me to senate.

    So I can vote for you to the SCOTUS.
     
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    What state do you live in?
     
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    The same as you, unfortunately(*), it will not make any difference

    (*) not because we share a common state obviously, but because our state already elected reasonable, logical options to the senate.
     
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    • ABM didn't read second half of the sentence as he had made it clear many of us, especially women, must not be allowed to make our choices.
     
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    Supreme Court sides with coach who sought to pray after game

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court sided Monday with a high school football coach from Washington state who sought to kneel and pray on the field after games, a decision that could strengthen the acceptability of some religious practices in other public school settings.

    The court ruled 6-3 for the coach with the court’s conservative justices in the majority and its liberals in dissent. The justices said the coach’s prayer was protected by the First Amendment.

    “The Constitution and the best of our traditions counsel mutual respect and tolerance, not censorship and suppression, for religious and nonreligious views alike,” Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote for the majority.

    The case forced the justices to wrestle with how to balance the religious and free speech rights of teachers and coaches with the rights of students not to feel pressured into participating in religious practices.

    The decision is the latest in a line of Supreme Court rulings for religious plaintiffs. In another recent example, the court ruled this month that Maine can’t exclude religious schools from a program that offers tuition aid for private education, a decision that could ease religious organizations’ access to taxpayer money.

    In a dissent Monday, Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote that the coach decision “sets us further down a perilous path in forcing states to entangle themselves with religion.” She was joined in her dissent by Justice Stephen Breyer and Justice Elena Kagan.

    The coach and his attorneys at First Liberty Institute, a Christian legal group, were among those cheering the decision. Paul Clement, the attorney who argued the case on behalf of coach Joseph Kennedy, said in a statement that the decision would allow the coach “to finally return to the place he belongs – coaching football and quietly praying by himself after the game.”

    Kennedy himself said in a statement: “This is just so awesome. All I’ve ever wanted was to be back on the field with my guys. I thank God for answering our prayers and sustaining my family through this long battle.”

    Kennedy, a Christian, is a former football coach at Bremerton High School in Bremerton, Washington. He started coaching at the school in 2008 and initially prayed alone on the 50-yard line at the end of games. Students started joining him, and over time he began to deliver a short, inspirational talk with religious references. Kennedy did that for years and also led students in locker room prayers. The school district learned what he was doing in 2015 and asked him to stop.

    Kennedy stopped leading students in prayer in the locker room and on the field but wanted to continue praying on the field himself, with students free to join if they wished. Concerned about being sued for violating students’ religious freedom rights, the school asked him to stop his practice of kneeling and praying while still “on duty” as a coach after the game. When he continued to kneel and pray on the field, the school put him on paid leave.

    In a statement, the Bremerton School District and their attorneys at Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, said the decision undermines that separation required by the Constitution. The school district said that it had “followed the law and acted to protect the religious freedom of all students and their families” and that it would work with its attorneys to make sure the district “remains a welcoming, inclusive environment for all students, their families and our staff.”

    Three justices on the court — Breyer, Kagan and Justice Samuel Alito — attended public high schools, while the rest attended Catholic schools.

    The case is Kennedy v. Bremerton School District, 21-418.

    https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-coach-prayer-2981a8073ea82a1a688c367270c941aa
     
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    Trying to prevent somebody from praying is evil, unless they are causing some harm or inconvenience to others.

    As long as he's not neglecting other responsibilities or forcing people to join there is no reason he shouldn't be able to do it.

    Trying to stop it is just government overreach and gives the right wing nut jobs more fuel for the fire.
     
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    Wonder how they will respond when a Muslim boy prays after practice on the same court? We both know where it would be...

    If there is a separation of church and state - combining religion and students in a publicly funded school - should be a no go. Because we start with this and later it will get the state removing books that do not adhere to some religious dogma and all of a sudden we have fucking Florida all over the USA. The SCOTUS is trying to make all of us fucked up like Florida. Fuck that shit.

    This makes no sense when they (the school district) had no issue with him praying in private or after the students left.
     
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    There should be no restriction on personal rights if that individual has not caused harm to somebody else.

    If a Muslim or Christian (or any other religion) teacher wants to pray without it impacting their duties they shouldn't be prevented from doing so.

    That's not much different than banning books, IMO.
     
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    Well, I guess I'll get a job as a substitute teacher, and let the kids know about Satanism, and let them participate if they wish.

    We'll see what the supreme court thinks about that.

    barfo
     
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    I agree 100%.........I know good people of numerous religions or personal beliefs, Ive got grandkids that go to a church and pray before meals and at bedtime. I don't have a problem with pro athletes that want to pray after games or when Dame refers to his religious views. Im not anti anyones religion, as long as they respect others and/or do not cause harm to someone else. I dont do religion, but I will not justify my thinking, by putting down theirs. Its their right and I respect it 100%. Freedom of choice is my belief in all things. On my block I have Russians, Ukrainians, Catholics, Protestants, White, Black, & Brown, we have proven we can be a community that models respect for all the little people on our block. It takes effort and willingness to rub elbows, erespect and enjoy your neighbors but its makes for a nice neighborhood spirit. There I go, even if Im not religious I use a religious term. Thats cool!
     
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    Spirt is a religious term?

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    Cant it be?
     
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    Gotit....spell check off
     
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