Around the NBA: 2022 Offseason

We asked a guy to play out of position. He never complained. He still put up good numbers..... and yet he's still a scapegoat.

 

First of all, we weren't in the Finals in 1993 (Bulls vs Suns). Take away your Blazers fan card. Secondly, there weren't 30 teams back then so I guess it's worse?

 

No last two minutes of regulation in the 4th and any OT are still okay. Teams need to be able to stop play and save the clock. The NBA lives for the last 2 mins of the game being 15-20 mins long with commercials.
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YOU were the person who "CHERRY PICKED" a single salary to compare to Powell. I expanded your cherry picking by 20; saw your one, raised twenty

I think the Simons contract is an overpay, and have said so many times. I have also said if the Blazers had let Simons test the market they may have signed him for close to Powell's average salary. No team was going to max Simons or even give him 25M/year. I know there was some paranoia about some team giving Simons a toxic deal, but that was extremely unlikely as well. And maybe some have said it's a bargain deal...I can't recall anybody doing so. But if they did they are simply guessing and buying into Simons continuing his seeming upward trajectory. Maybe that will happen; or maybe his upward trajectory will stall like CJ's did after his 4th season after he got his huge 2nd contract

as far as Powell, I said he was overpaid. I guess that's similar to saying it's a bad deal, but I'd just call it bloated; bloated in dollars and duration

I'd sure as hell rather have Hart at 13M than Powell at 18M. In fact, I'd rather have Hart at 18M than Powell at 18M (both would be overpaid then, but Hart is a 2-way). Powell is not a 2-way player like Hart. Powell is an undersized SG who plays crappy defense, has relatively high usage, and has no PG skills. That's not worth 18M/year in my book

neither Powell or Simons is an egregious overpay, but at least with Simons there is substantial reason to hope he'll grow into the contract

mainly, I'm extremely happy that CJ and Powell aren't Blazers anymore

 

Lol that isn't the only salary I have used to compare Powell too. I forgive you because you haven't been reading all of my posts. It was just the latest signing available to compare to.

You used a rookie salary to compare Powell to. I think you're onto something there. Lets just sign everyone to rookie salaries.

Hart might be paid more than Powell as soon as next year.

My point is people have said Powell was overpaid so getting Keon for him was a win. Which I completely disagree with. 20 ppg scorers are harder to come by than people think. And he is efficient in doing so.

 

you're right...I don't follow the progression of every argument here so an isolated post might look different to me than the arguer.

who was the rookie salary...RJ Barret?...my bad...ignore that and focus on the other 19

The Blazers dumped salary and got under the tax with the Clippers trade; some salary last season, and lots of salary in the out years. That had value. And Portland didn't just get Keon; he was secondary to adding Winslow IMO. Part of the equation was Billups + Winslow. Billups + Powell was an obvious bust

I know the people determined to bitch and bitch and bitch about the Clippers trade will keep bitching and bitching. I'm not trying to change those minds and I guess part of the bitching is arguing Powell has a good contract....or at least that's it's not a bad contract. I know this...that contract had negative value to the Blazers

 

We would have gotten under the tax with the Pelicans trade without trading Powell.

Playing Powell at his rightful position would have been a nice look. And with the salaries being thrown around this offseason, we might have been able to get more for him than Keon and Winslow. Which doesn't even take into consideration Roco who everyone seems to hate now. Even though the Clippers seemed to like him enough to resign him.

Look at the salaries posted that you didn't cherry pick. Powell is paid fine. 17 million for a 20 ppgish scorer isn't an overpay. Fans thought it was a great deal until we traded him.

 

Yup. There was no urgency to trade him for scraps. We could have waited until closer to the deadline OR waited until this summer. The timing seemed desperate and amateurish.

 

like I said.....

curious...setting aside the hard cap for a bit, would you guys rather have Powell at 18M or Payton at 9M? Which one fits better with Dame/Simons + Billups?

 

Well, see, here's the thing..... Powell could be traded right now for (in theory) a Kevin Durant. Payton can't be traded until... what... January? And he hard caps us.

 

Powell is a substantially more proven and talented player than Payton.

But, like has been said, we should have waited until the offseason to move him if that is what we wanted to do. Or closer to the deadline. Winslow and Keon is a trash return.

 

GP hands down imo.

 

no...that's not what I mean. But ok....Powell > Winslow + Payton + Keon. I know your gauges better now

here's what I mean: some people will not let go of the idea that Powell could have been traded for a lot more than he was....even though there's not a shred of evidence he could have been. Personally, I don't care about the return from the Powell trade; I didn't at the time and I don't now. The important thing was to shed his contract as part of the absolutely needed dismantling of olshey's shitty dysfunctional roster

 

Some folks like to just give away 20ish ppg efficient scorers for minimal return.

Including Payton is funny. Because he hard capped us and we would have had other exception to use while not gettinf hard capped with Powell still here.

We also could have explored moving Hart elsewhere to see what returns he would get this offseason. Hard for some to swallow. But, at the end of the day, the Powell trade was abysmal.

 

But your what we could have had scenario is you arbitrarily paying Simons 10 million a year less than he's getting paid. If we get to just make things up in ideal situations then sure whatever you wanted is better than what actually happened. Why not sign Lavine for that TPMLE while we're at it!

 

Sorry, was just working off the average salary.
So we want to pay norm 18 to be an undersized no defense SG next to Dame. And hope that simons takes a below market deal to come off the bench behind him? Ok.