OT DOES RELIGION MEAN SOMETHING TO YOU?

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  1. SharpeScooterShooter

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    That may be the meaning but that doesn't mean that dictates the behavior they exhibit.
     
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    Not a Christian, or religious. Just agreeing that lumping all into one is not productive.
     
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    "They" who? There is no "Antifa" organization.

    Again, you are confusing Anti-fascists with Anarchists.
     
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    Like lumping Anti-Fascists in with Anarchists?
     
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    History has plenty of "world is flat" lies masked as truth but that does not discount actual truth being truth.....although you can doubt it all you want. My forefathers didn't pass down racism or slavery to me. I learned the truth. Christians didn't pass on their afterlife beliefs to me either as again...I learned the truth. Debate just for the sake of debate is not going to change that.
     
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    No i am not. Self proclaimed Antifa folk. Not all. Some.
     
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    Interesting take. I hope that you realize that your interpretation is colored by your own biases and prejudices. We all have them.

    When it comes down to it, we're all a bunch of sentient matter that lives for a period of time on a piece of rock whirling around a minor sun in a smallish galaxy of stars amongst millions of other such galaxies. We all try to come to grips with unanswerable questions about how/why the universe exists/came into being and how/why life arose on at least this one planet whirling around a minor sun in an unimportant galaxy amongst millions of others. Ultimately, belief in billions of years of random chance and a few million years of evolution comes up against walls at the limits of human observation, science and understanding. Believing that there is nothing behind it all is no more logical than a belief that there is.
     
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    I certainly hope you don't consider me one of those. I do have my principles, but do my best to relate them in a respectful way to others.
     
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    Are you claiming that not one person who claims to be Antifa has never used fascist behaviors to push their point?
     
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    No, I don't see you as one of those.
     
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    Ideology
    Today, Antifa supporters maintain that fascism remains alive and must be countered with force. Many believe that “militant anti-fascism is a reasonable, historically informed response to the fascist threat that persisted after 1945 and that has become menacing in recent years.” Yet Antifa is not a single-issue movement, and Antifa supporters do not simply oppose fascism. “Anti-fascism,” Mark Bray writes in his study of Antifa, “is an illiberal politics of social revolutionism applied to fighting the Far Right, not only literal fascists.” Antifa sympathizers focus on other issues, including environmental activism, anti-war mobilization, and anti-racism.
     
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    Bro, take a breath and remember the old adage about never arguing with a fool...........and that you can't fix what isn't fixable. Save your breath for someone with actual intelligence and common sense.
     
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    Kindness, forgiveness, and peace.

    we need more of all of it.
     
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    Let's start with accountability
     
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    That's all irrelevant to the discussion. Don't push your beliefs off on others.

    If you are allowing people of your "congregation" or "religion" to do so without preventing it then that is allowing your beliefs to be used for evil. If that belief results in increased pain and suffering and it is pushed anyway it is evil.

    However, I have never claimed to know or believe there is nothing behind all of it. There is no evidence, so I wouldn't claim to know or make others act a certain way because of it. That would be evil.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

    Wow, it's almost like all those things are tools of fascism...
     
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    Are all Americans bad because a person claiming to be American kills other people? Especially if that person isn't actually American?
     
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    A little about me:

    My father was a pastor of a Black church in N. Portland for over 40 years. I grew up in that church. When I turned 13, I left the church because I was tired of being picked on, spit on, and the like. We were just kids, though. I loved all the adults, and they loved me. My teens and 20's were a blur of sex, drugs, and rock and roll. I was living with a gal, and she ended up cheating on me. It was at that point, in my tears of sadness that I reached out to God in my kitchen. As I was sliding down the wall in tears, telling God that I was all His, a golden glow and warmth entered the room. No way else to describe it. I was at complete peace. I went to work the next day (Tigard) a completely changed person. My co-workers and friends couldn't believe it. My best work buddy exclaimed, "What kind of metamorphosis came over you, man?!!" Indeed, I was a changed person. Quit smoking, quit the drugs, quit the cussing, quit it all - cold turkey. That was 1989. All the time in my teens and 20's, my dad would tell me that he and my mom were praying for me and that they loved me. He told me the church was praying for me, as well. I went back to that church, stood up front and gave testimony that it was becuase of their prayers that God saved me. There wasn't a dry eye in the house. It was a beautiful thing. My dad was my best friend - always had been. He died @ 92 in 2014. My mom passed away in 2016.

    Am I perfect? No. Do I not sin? No. Do I screw up? Absolutely. However, I believe in the forgiveness of sin as the Bible promises. I live my life in trust and faith that God has my back. He does. He's proven Himself to me time and time again.
     
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    Thanks bro...I deleted that post. Probably break time again..
     
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