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  1. BigGameDamian

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  2. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    I see this and think two things:

    1) they think it’s dangerous so of course they want her to go.
    2) we desperately needs some younger political leaders for fucks sake
     
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  3. riverman

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    Fuck Xi Jinping.....he knows what would happen all across the Pacific if he does this..it'd start WWIII. Taiwan is holding anti aircraft drills today as are other countries in the region ..China might be stubborn but I don't think they want to be surrounded by enemies and have their supply lines cut off. Their two friends Russia and N Korea are both broke and struggling to feed themselves as it is.
     
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  4. Stevenson

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    I just have never understood our obsession with Taiwan. It's a tiny country that is not in our sphere of influence, it IS in China's, and not a strategic asset in any way.

    Not worth going to war with China over, that's for damn sure.
     
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    We wouldn't need WWIII. If we sanction China the way we are sanctioning Russia you'd have about the 500 million dead Chinese in a year.
     
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    We've been allies since WWII....there are about a million foreign companies with factories and deep roots there...it's strategically located and our military was there, Okinawa and in S. Korea and the Phillipines and Guam to protect our allies in the Pacific from another Japan like aggression ...we protect New Zealand, Australia, Fiji, Malaysia, all sorts of allies in the region. I have family there and my wife is Taiwanese....there are people from all over the world living and working there...it's a free democracy and one of our best trading partners for computer displays and chips..we've had a thriving international trade relation with Taiwan..it's absolutely in our sphere of influence....China and Hong Kong were both once our allies as well. China knows this. I don't think they'll invade. Taiwan represents democracy in asia..successful democracy. Taiwan has the same population as Australia and Canada.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    We aren't the ones obsessed with Taiwan - it's China that's obsessed.

    barfo
     
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    Those are all great reasons. Legit. My only caveat is that Taiwan is historically part of China. Guam is not, Japan is not, etc.

    And I also get its a western country, but to me it is more akin to Hong Kong than Okinawa. Our obsession is a remnant of the red scare of the 50s.
     
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    Taiwan has been historically part of Portugal, Holland, China, Japan and the 18 original tribes there who are the ancestors to the Maoris in New Zealand...their natives are polynesians....they are now mixed with Dutch, Portuguese, Japanese and Chinese blood. The Japanese controlled the island for 75 years...they were given to Japan by Pu Yi ..the last emperor of China...they have been occupied many times in their history but are a Pacific Island..the Taiwanese who've been there about 500 years are the same people as the Okinawans..fishermen...Hong Kong is nothing like Taiwan..it's Cantonese....The Taiwanese language is not written....Mandarin was brought to the island with Chiang Kai Shek..they have two conflicting political parties...the KMT who are mainland Chinese and the party of the Chinese...and the DPP the independence party of people who are originally Taiwanese and demand independance from Chinese claims. We aren't fueling a "red scare"...we have a Pacific Rim alliance to keep any country from invading another in the region. Pearl Harbor put this in our backyard...we didn't go looking for it. we also packed up our military bases in Taiwan, the Phillipines and Okinawa....when times were peaceful...we left...still in Korea because it's never been a time of peace there. I was in the Navy when we had bases in those 3 countries and again after we left....the old Navy Com station in Taiwan is now the US Trade Center there which acts as our unofficial embassy.We should absolutely vote Taiwan back into the United Nations again...fuck China
     
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    IMO Nancy should go to Taiwan. I don't believe China would respond militarily.
     
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    I’m not so sure. That’s a lot of toxicity to bring so close to their shoreline. Could be seen as an act of war.
     
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    Taiwan is it's own country....fuck China....we visit countries that border China directly...Taiwan isn't as close as India or Vietnam or Laos etc......China needs to stop the cold war bullshit with Taiwan and visiting the president there...(a woman also) sends a signal of faith to that wonderful democracy in the Pacific....China flying over the island all year is closer to an act of war than a diplomat visiting a president.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Yeah Chinas relations with Taiwan are no bueno. Many Chinese still see Taiwan as theirs.

    There’s historical and consistent concern by Taiwanese citizens of war with China.

    I have a friend who was has lived over there his whole life.

    Taiwan does things better than China. As far as I’m concerned, Taiwan should have Chinas land.
     
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    Our National Guard just did training maneuvers with Taiwan's military...we sold them anti-aircraft weapons and fighter jets....I don't think Pelosi will be the reason they go to war. It's sabre rattling which they've been doing for going on a century now.
     
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    When was the last time Xi, or whatever the equivalent leader in China to Pelosi is, visited Taiwan? Oh, they never have. Xi has only met the Taiwanese president once in Singapore, from what I could find. China can cry about it all they want, and they will, but I also don't think they will be taking any military action.
     
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    Taiwan may be more powerful than China within a decade. Then China could get some real leadership.
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    What is the color I should use to highlight a joke? But, yeah, screw China.
     

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