OT Why does the IRS need $80 billion? Just look at its cafeteria.

My bad. Updated to the more recent one. Not sure how that old link got in there.

They already have most of that data from companies doing quarterly filings.

Again, many first world countries do this. It's not difficult.

 

That's okay though. The people who need it should be the ones who cover the cost. Especially since they are the ones who can afford it.

 

What info do you think they have from quarterly filings? They get a breakdown on Form 941 of their entire companies payroll for that quarter, but nothing about each individual taxpayer. And those are filed wrong ALL THE TIME. Payroll companies have zero idea what or how payroll affects a tax return so they mess things up.

The annual return and 4th quarter payroll filings are due like the same time the W-2 is.

 

Tax preparers don't charge that much for someone that only has a w-2 unless it is a brick and mortar h&r block type or a huge cpa firm. Maybe $100-200 depending who it is.

Turbotax and h&r block don't make that much if you file it yourself either. Every year h&r block at home is like $30 for their basic software and they let you file 5 federal returns for that.

 

I don't disagree. I'm just saying there are multiple options for people to file if they simply have a w-2 and their returns aren't complicated at all that barely cost anything as is (not including the free options).

 

The problem is, that encourages them to lobby for more complicated tax law. Which is exactly what they do.

The incentives are wrong.

 

Its not just them. Everyone lobbies for tax law.

And unfortunately we have a complex economy.

 

Of course everyone argues for tax law. But this is a problem we can actually solve for the vast majority of people.

And we can solve it fairly simply using modern technology. Other countries (with just as complex economies) solved this problem decades ago.

 

Good luck. Everyone likes to say something is super easy to do, then when it happens they bitch incessantly.

The State Of Oregon just updated their technology like 5 years ago and everyone bitches about how horrible and annoying it is.

 

I would certainly advocate for more technically capable government reps. That's another conversation altogether.

The government is fully capable of making a website. They are fully capable of calculating taxes.

But yes, government can fuck stuff up. They should be better. I completely agree.

 

The point is, just like the president, even if he was Jesus, people would bitch about it.

The government could make a website where someone just needs to login to get a $1,000 a month UBI check and people would still bitch.

 

That's true.

 

Correct.

 

It is exaggerated worse when it comes to governmental entities.

If only they did this! That would make other people bitch and it isn't as easy as a snap of the fingers like people like to project.