OT Why Never Trumpers Should Bet on DeSantis Now

And why were they moving here? Because it cost so much less.

And now that cost of living in Oregon has skyrocketed due to that pressure, they are looking to Washington instead, because you can still move closer to cities for a more reasonable price. Mostly in Southern Washington

 

Americans are fleeing to places where political views match their own


There's a private Facebook group with nearly 8,000 members called Conservatives Moving to Texas. Three of them are sitting at a dinner table — munching on barbecue weenies and brownies — in the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex. None are vaxxed.

And they love it here.

"As soon as I drove into Texas, literally, as soon as I could get into the state and stop at my first truck stop for gas it was, like, 'This is wonderful,' " says Lynn Seeden, a 59-year-old portrait photographer from Orange County, Calif.

"People weren't wearing masks — nobody cared. It's kind of like heaven on earth."

She says when the state of California forced her to close her photography studio over COVID-19 restrictions, she and her husband, a retired newspaper editor, knew it was time to "escape."

America is growing more geographically polarized — red ZIP codes are getting redder and blue ZIP codes are becoming bluer. People appear to be sorting.

"We felt very out of place and very uncomfortable at times," says Tiffany Wooten, a 43-year-old stay-at-home mom whose family recently relocated from conservative Indiana to liberal Austin. "We were looking at blue cities because we wanted to be with our own people."

The trend seems to be quickening as conservatives flee places with strict COVID-19 rules.

Karen Bates, a 52-year-old mortgage executive, moved to the Dallas-Fort Worth metropolitan area with her family last year from Puerto Rico. She says the island's government was going to force her teenaged daughter, who has Type 1 diabetes, to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. She now attends a Christian school.

"She's not had to wear a mask," Bates says. "She doesn't have to get vaccinated. She's thriving on the tennis team, making straight A's. I love the freedom of [vaccine] choice in Texas."

In the modern era, Texas has fashioned itself into a sort-of breakaway red-meat republic — banning books and restricting abortion, blocking mask mandates, and building its own border fence. It retains this national image in spite of the fact that its five largest counties went for President Biden.

But more and more Trump followers are flocking to red Texas in search of the promised land.

"People are asking, 'Tell me about the most conservative towns. Where should I be moving?' " says Seeden, of the people who post comments on the Conservatives Moving to Texas page.

The national real estate brokerage, Redfin, predicted that in 2022, "people will vote with their feet, moving to places that align with their politics."

according to the Texas Real Estate Research Center at Texas A&M University. Most came from Southern California. Florida was the second biggest contributor of new Texans.

Family therapist and conservative activist Dr. Bridget Melson, 52, is a new Texan.

Six years ago, when Melson and her family decided to leave Riverside County, Calif., for the Lone Star State, they were methodical.

"We want our medical freedoms. We want our constitutional rights. We are definitely pro-life," says Melson, who created the Facebook group. "We looked where the red counties were. We knew Austin was going to be a lost cause, and so we knew we didn't want to be there. And we really wanted to have decent weather and the least amount of bugs, so we figured the Metroplex."

Melson asked some friends to join her for interviews with NPR in her fashionable home in a posh rural subdivision with its own equestrian center. She sits on the Bartonville Town Council and is running for mayor. She maintains that Republicans migrating from blue states are the most militant about stopping creeping liberalism.

"People used to come up to me and say, 'Don't California my Texas.' But we're the damn cavalry! We're here to save you. Because we know what's going to happen. And if we don't run for office, get involved in school boards, and pay attention and get out and vote, then you're gonna California Texas."

 

What's sad is you act like this is a "new" thing....people have always left for places that suit their politics or belief systems...I'd like for every MAGAtard in the country to move to Florida, Texas and Tennessee until all three states get crammed full of deplorables. Wait until the California homeless make the migration. I hope all three states have to shell out a ton of welfare assistance for all the teenaged mothers that'll be without Planned Parenthood assistance as well. Karma is a bitch

 

I do? Hmmmm......

One word: COVID

 

Sorry you suffer from long covid....I never got the stuff myself. I wear a mask shopping indoors still. People have been moving to Florida all of your life for tax breaks and sunshine, not covid...New Yorkers come there from a blue state not for the politics. Blue haired wrinkled sunbathers...should be on the travel brochure.

 

Oh, sure...what you say may be true. COVID brought all new reasons for leaving those states, though. As has been mentioned, many more folks want out of California and NY.......much to do with the politcal shackles they've been encumbered with.

Back to my OP on the subject, Gavin Newsom is sending Charlie Crist $100k Floridians are, like, whatever. LOL

 

People aren't fleeing from California to Washington based on political views. Seriously.

 

political shackles? Shackles are used to transport slaves and prisoners...political allegiances are not forced on anyone so that makes zero sense. Retirement destinations are just what they are...the politicizing of it is not why people move...moving is a major expense. Retirement is the number one reason . Hawaii has the same thing, Most of those people however do not end up staying there long term...prunetang did not move to Florida for the politics. Maybe you did..choices. Natural disasters have caused many people to move, especially after their house burns up in a forest fire. California has been burning up....after Katrina, many people from New Orleans moved to California as well...People move to California in droves from all over the nation looking for that Hollywood dream.

 

Shackles. Again, many people didn't want to be shackled to the political demands and restrictions brought on by COVID. So, they moved.....and still are.

 

You need to learn to use analogies correctly. Had you guys practiced safety protocols when covid first hit it would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives but you took it on tour....which was the wrong thing to do whether you felt constricted or not...it was about protecting your neighbors, not your freedom of movement. One million deaths later......you think it was political...give me a break. The MAGA response to a global pandemic was horribly wrong and we paid a huge price for procratination of that administration when we could have limited the spread with some fucking common sense. Too late now.

 

There were many approaches to the pandemic.

 

The ones that succeeded were not in America

 

Nonetheless, the migrations continue. Eat your heart out, Gavin.

 

You think increasing Florida's population bothers any Californian? News flash....it doesn't.

 

Who cares? What I essentially said was, that Gavin Newsom's $100k contribution to Charlie Crist's campaign makes me chuckle.

 

why are you concerned with his tax write off?

 

Because Newsom is actually afraid of DeSantis. Thanks for your continued support.