OT Why Never Trumpers Should Bet on DeSantis Now

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    California is many things. A laughingstock is not one of them.
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    All of those things are true in my opinion.
     
  3. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Yeah, sure, to the raging libs.

    Tennessee is a wonderful state. There are exceptions in every state. You happen to have cited the exceptions.
     
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    Not...to the honest people who see equality as an American value. The exceptions have headquarters there...but you don't want to see them because it's embarrassing and they support your vote. Rage on some of that Tucker...your party is in the gutter...shameful, crooked and filled with lies. Had you joined your parties few well intentioned members you could have some pride but as it is, you have chided the honesty in the GOP...those who voted to impeach your orange Maga daddy. Stand for the Liz Cheneys and Adam Kinzingers and gain your pride back. Pretty simple really. Until then you're in the other camp and that one has lost all respect. By all means, please stay in Tennessee or Florida...
     
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  6. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Yeah, but, apparently, more supported him in 2020 than in 2016. Why is that?

    https://www.kqed.org/news/11846100/...tinos-in-california-and-nationally-poll-finds

    Trump Support Grew Among Latinos in California and Nationally, Poll Finds



    Also.....

    https://www.latimes.com/california/...ore-conservative-2022-gustavo-arellano-column
     
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    Southern California...home to Reagan and Nixon...you'll find a big GOP presence south of Santa Barbara....polls....polls said Hillary would win. Those latinos are not picking lettuce either...they are renting properties and looking for that golf club membership. You never catch onto the context of these things....not surprised. The labor force I mentioned doesn't get to vote or fill out polls.
     
  8. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well...then...

    Sly is a dork!


    Burn!!
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    And California is the laughing stock to morons.


    You do realize there are more Democrats and progressive minded people than Republicans and conservatives, right?
     
  10. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Sure. What's your point?
     
  11. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Got it. All lettuce pickers are Democrats.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Laugh on, hombre. It's good for the soul.
     
  13. julius

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    Laughing at vs laughing with.
     
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    No..you don't get it....you probably don't get the I'm not a democrat either....the labor force was from Mexico and Central America..they don't fill out polls or register to vote....California is something like 80 percent Latino and predominantly a blue state by a large margin so your little LAtimes poll is meaningless. It was policy and the fucking wall that drove out our work force from the farms and dairies over the rapist fear tactic Trump spouted. Every country uses migrant labor for agriculture....which is the point this conversation started with. My oldest son is half latino and republican in California...I know a bit about the place...have lots of family there. Also have worked there ...lot of retired military in Southern Cal from NTC in San Diego to Camp Pendelton in Oceanside to Naval Air station in Miramar. Many of those folks come from places like Tennessee, Alabama, etc.....that's why SoCal is the most conservative part of the state.
     
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    Sure. Gather your minions.
     
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    So, then, why does California have to depend so much on the Latino farm worker?
     
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    Washington State relies on a lot of Caribbean fruit pickers..(large hands are a huge plus picking fruit) ..as a child in Iowa Jamaicans came through every season for the sugar beet harvest....farmers can't turn a profit paying union scale wages for people to weed or harvest thousands of acres of crops...same in California....also virtually no other American citizens seek work in the fields. Same in many, many countries...none of my grandkids want to sweat in the fields in the summer working crops...nor do I blame them. We had neighbors who were happy to do these jobs and Trump chased them out.
     
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    Well, therein lies the problem, then: We can't fend for ourselves.
     
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    Sure we can but it requires restructuring agriculture from large farms to small farms...something that will not produce the surplus that turns a profit by export. I can survive right now without grocery stores. I produce more than I need and provide for my son's family as well. Most people do not have a garden period. I'd guess you can't feed yourself from your home without money to buy food. I can. Choices. Wineries seldom grow their own grapes...they subcontract for grapes.
     
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    OK, tell that to Joe. He has two years to work on this.
     

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