OT The Death Penalty

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Are you for or against the death penalty?

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  3. Depends on the circumstance

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    A person wrongly convicted of murder should have no civil rights?

    Really?
     
  2. riverman

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    There are many, many cases of repeat murderers who got out to do it again.
    Revealed: The 12 convicted murderers who were freed on licence only to kill AGAIN in the past decade | Daily Mail Online
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=murderers who got out of jail to murder again&form=ANNTH1&refig=c6d4448d29db28b84687a0f15e10c0b2
     
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  3. riverman

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    you mentioned strawmen.....we're not talking about people wrongly convicted...so let's stick to the murderers who are caught red handed eh?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Voltaire-
    “that generous Maxim, that ’tis much more Prudence to acquit two Persons, tho’ actually guilty, than to pass Sentence of Condemnation on one that is virtuous and innocent.

    Benjamin Franklin-
    It is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved

    -Sir William Blackstone
    “For the law holds, that it is better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer.”
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Looks like prisoners have more rights than those people who decided to go grocery shopping yesterday. At least they don't have to worry about getting shot.
     
  7. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Oh sorry if i wasn't clear. I wasn't stating what the laws were. I was stating what i believe. Sorry for the confusion.
     
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    No that is not what i said. Nice try though. ;)
     
  9. SlyPokerDog

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    But that's not what you said. You used a specific example/concern about mass shooters.

    I think all prisoners that are abducted by aliens and anally probed should be sent to live in Florida after they are returned to earth.
     
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    again...we're not talking about INNOCENT PEOPLE wrongly convicted...I don't think anyone convicted with any reasonable doubt around the case should be executed so stop changing the topic...I'm talking about killers you and I know killed innocent people....what about the innocent victim's rights? Their families rights?
     
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    10 twisted murderers who were freed then killed again (monstersandcritics.com)
    Plea of Insanity - Can you get away with Murder? (lawbriefcase.com)
    Top 10 Most Notorious Insanity Defense Cases - Listverse
    There are many, many cases of these to be found. I think the point I was making is absolutely on target. If you read my reply to your original question I said no....off hand I couldn't but there are examples of it throughout history.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    You were using mass shooters as an example, not murderers.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    didn't get much sleep. trying to drown myself in work as a distraction.

    i made the mistake of reading this idiot's manifesto last night that made me feel worse.

    might take a while for this community to get past this. can only imagine what the families of the victims are feeling.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    They already are. How do you think DeSantis got that squeaky voice?

    barfo
     
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    mass shooters are murderers but you can dissect it into whatever category you like...my first example was mobsters ...hit men ..of course not all murderers are mass murderers but the point doesn't change as to the loopholes in the justice system that allow killers to kill again ..mass killers or not...in this case it's a mass killer. He's dead but if he survived I'd want him executed without delay. I support the death penalty for killers who are without a doubt guilty of intentionally killing innocent people.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Really? Any particular reason?
     
  17. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Is this going to be everyday now?
     
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    This has been the case in the US for our entire existence. It happens less frequently now than it did pre 1990s. There has been a significant uptick since 2008, as US citizens have had less and less security.
     
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    It seems like it's already what happens... just as well make it more consistent...
     
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