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words are one thing...trash-talk is just words...a shove is just a shove. But a 230 lb pound man throwing a hay-maker punch to the face of another person is assault; it's dangerous as hell and if you don't believe that just ask Rudy Tomjanovich

 

Rudy was sucker punched though. He wasn't even fighting with Kermit. He was walking up and Kermit spun and decked him. It's a completely different situation.

Poole and Draymond were squared up. This was a fight. You don't shove someone and then not protect yourself.

 

chump change for the kinda engagement that video is getting. i bet it's closer to 100k.

 

Maybe more. Whoever leaked the video could very well lose their career.

 

Or one months rent in the Bay Area!

 

obviously, the Rudy situation was different, although I think you could make a similar argument to what you're doing for Green in that Rudy shouldn't have ran toward a fight without protecting himself

and they weren't really "squared up". Poole had shoved Green and moved about 5 feet back from where he was before the shove...and his hands were down at his side when Green launched himself and threw the punch. It was a very sudden and violent attack. Yeah, in hindsight, Poole, knowing Green is volatile, should have been more guarded in his stance. But that absolutely does not mitigate what Green did in any fashion. In fact, that Poole was unprepared for what Green did makes it worse

 

Green should not have thrown a punch. I have said it before and I'll say it again. It was a gross overreaction.

However.....

This is a situation where two guys were talking shit, Green got in his face, Poole shoved him, and then Green threw a punch. We don't know what was said. We don't know how long these tensions were building. We don't have context at all. Just a slice of the relationship between these two players.

At any point, either of these guys could have defused the situation all the way up to the punch, but they chose to keep escalating.

 

it's probably safe to say both guys were being assholes. That's usually the case and Green being Green has been a thing for more than a decade

in Poole's case, the shove wasn't legally 'self-defense', IMO. But I am pretty sure there are stipulations in the law for 'justifiable reactions'. Green invading Poole's personal space (which is legally recognized to exist) and bumping him would probably give Poole cause for the shove being 'justifiable reaction'. In other words, it very well might be that the law would not consider Poole's shove an escalation. I guess you could argue that's legal hair-splitting but whatever...

Green's punch, and the manner of it, is an escalation that can easily cross the line to felony; assault & battery with the intent to do bodily harm. IIRC that would be considered aggravated battery. I'm not arguing that's what should happen....just that what Green did simply can't be justified as a reaction to trash-talk or a shove.

don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there was a felony here. I'm sure Poole won't press charges. But I am saying that punch was really dangerous and there is no mitigation for it

 

Sometimes it doesn't matter if Poole presses charges. If the DA sees this video they can determine that a crime has been committed and press charges.

 

I’m really surprised Green hasn’t been put on his ass yet. I think he chooses who he battles with carefully.

 

I know so many people who need an ass whoopin... but it never happens.

 

Yeah definitely not as much as it should.

 

"I have decided expand Jordan Poole's pool to include the practice facility and the arena."

 

I think he is probably one tough SOB. My bet is not many want to tangle with him.

 

Usually the tough ones don’t run their mouth as much as he does.

 

Yeah, I think it was a normal training camp scuffle that Dray escalated way way too far and that's what he's saying. So I don't know what else there is to talk about.

 

No way I would do that if I'm Green.