Nobody implied anything about how any minority race feels about guns. Unfortunately, poor and minorities in this country are more easily lead astray than their better educated peers. So don't go patting yourself on your back too hard for convincing poor and minorities to vote against their own best interests. I understand that's what both parties want, but I much prefer discussions about reality and solving problems rather than pushing some agenda that a political party has convinced me to swallow hook line and sinker.
https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/or/portland/murder-homicide-rate-statistics Oregon passed universal background checks in 2015, including for private party transactions. Thereby drastically increasing the time, expense, and complexity of making such transactions legally. As well as red flag laws. The following years saw the highest homicide rates of the decade for Portland and Oregon. And it's only gotten worse since. And that was prior to covid-19, prior to drug decriminalization, prior to all of the excuses given. And police take 80 minutes to respond to even reports of guns threatening schools. https://www.kgw.com/article/news/in...hool/283-7f21612b-ad0b-4a3b-983c-930ca7b40f97
Well? Your own graph says different but i guess that's to be expected? 2018 has Oregon at 1.96 and only one year in the prior 20 years was lower? Just in 2014 the rate in Portland was 4.22 but you say and i quote- Your facts prove you are wrong AGAIN!
Dude, the following 3 years were the highest 3 year stretch of the decade. Yes, the nature of the very low rates means you get peaks and valleys, but 2014 was an obvious outlier to every other year in the decade. A single weekend can skew numbers that much. What you can't argue is that these numbers support the idea that gun control reduced violent crime and murder rates. Nobody claimed gun control increases violent crime and murder rates.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but it looks to me like 2013 and 2016 are even more "outliers" to other years in the decade than 2014 was. From 2009-2018, the mean is 3.357, and the standard deviation is about 0.655. 2014's 4.22 is 1.3 std dev above the mean, while the 2013 and 2016 values of 2.18 and 2.3 are 1.8 and 1.6 std devs below the mean, respectively.
But similarly, you can't argue that they don't. Violent crime and murder rates might have increased even more without gun control. We have no way of knowing. There are many more variables involved here than just gun control vs no gun control. barfo
There is no evidence to support the idea that they do. Thereby, no reason to support laws which have limited to no benefit, IMO.
Not expecting you to support laws that you believe have no benefit. Just saying the 'no evidence' argument works for either side here. Most public policy positions can't be rigorously proven to be correct/incorrect. barfo
If a policy can't be proven to be beneficial it's a waste of time and effort, and an undue encroachment on personal freedoms. This negatively impacts the efforts of evidence based policy by robbing it of funding and political capital.
Norway has among the most guns per capita in the world. What Norway does that the US doesn't is encourage responsible gun ownership and education, and has far better gini coefficient by offering everybody access the healthcare, education, and a generous social safety net.
Every one of those countries has a far better gini coefficient than the US, as I mentioned in the other post. None of those countries have shown more effective gun control than the US has accomplished by not using gun control. At least, that I have found. I posted australian and UK numbers compared to US, and the US was as good or better. Than their pre and post gun control numbers. If you have other countries who have shown larger drops post gun control I'd love to see them.
