Exclusive I'm not sold on Dame/Ant

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  1. KSF-ERIC

    KSF-ERIC Well-Known Member

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    It meant everything. Those games were fun. Isn’t that why we watch?
     
    KSF-ERIC, Feb 8, 2022
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    KSF-ERIC Well-Known Member

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    Hart shoots 34.5 from 3 for his career. Also shooting 50% from field this season. 3 point shooting isn’t everything.
     
    KSF-ERIC, Feb 8, 2022
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    Read context.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 8, 2022
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    Dame for Jaylen Brown and picks
    Dame for Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey and picks.

    Nurk for a 1st.

    Would those types of deals excite you?
     
    SlyPokerCat, Feb 8, 2022
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    Simmons or Jaylen are too old to headline a Dame trade. Maybe they wouldn't have been a week ago before we got rid of the other vets on the roster, but now they most certainly are too old for our long rebuild road ahead.

    If we are trading Dame we need youth, more like OKC got in a rookie SGA and four first round picks.
     
    SharpesTriumph, Feb 8, 2022
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    I don't necessarily agree. Simmons is still only 25. Maxey is 21.

    That's like saying we should have traded Aldridge when we drafted Dame because he was too old.

    Nonetheless, you could re-route Simmons elsewhere for multiple picks and another young player if you really wanted.
     
    SlyPokerCat, Feb 8, 2022
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    Your context was Travis Outlaw sucked and I disagree.
     
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    He will be a superstar
     
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    SGA played his rookie year in LA.
     
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    Gotta be consistent, need more than one hot stretch, I hope he shows more but he really needs to
     
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    The fact that you think that was my contention proves that you didn't read the context.
     
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    Any way that Hart could be SG insurance if we sign and trade Ant in the offseason?

    Dame
    Hart
    NAS
    Grant
    Nurk

    whoever we get in S&T for Ant
    2 FRP
    MLE
     
    SharpesTriumph, Feb 9, 2022
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    Last night against Denver, Dame scored 31 on 62.5% shooting (57% from 3), and Ant scored 29 on 64.7% shooting, (58% from 3).

    In the entire Dame/CJ starting era, they played 415 games together.
    Only 32 times did they both score 28+.
    Only 6 of those had both over 50% 3P.
    Only once were both over 60% from the field (12/20/19 against the Magic).

    It is arguable that Dame/Ant were as good or better combined last night against Denver than any game in the Dame/CJ history.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Oct 25, 2022
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    they only played 50 games (on average) in the 8 years they played together?
     
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    I evaluated the years CJ started, so 15-16 through 21-22 (until the NOP trade). The team played 529 games in that span (4 *82 + 74 + 72 + 55). Dame played 465 of those games, CJ played 464, and 415 together. Only 20 of those were last season. In the 6 complete seasons of Dame/CJ starting together, they played 395 games together, or an average of 67/year.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Oct 25, 2022
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    lol, good to see you've got your bases covered.

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    Yes, back in February, immediately after the CJ trade, I wanted to see Hart start. After Ant got his $100M contract, I said that he will start.

    Reasonable people can change position after new information arises.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Oct 25, 2022
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    No shame at all making this thread and posting it last February. You were not alone with this line of thought.
    I still wonder if they come up against a team that is longer and better defenders that might give them fits?
     
    Fairly-Hard, Oct 25, 2022
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Huge stat right there. Dare I say that it is surprising to see?

    Nice info
     
    PDXFonz, Oct 25, 2022
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    BTW--just want to make sure it's noted that I didn't use this thread to call out the OP; I just didn't want to start a new "Dame/Ant" thread when one already existed.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Oct 25, 2022
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