Politics Nov. 2022 voting and election news

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You don't want to wake the kids when you shoot the stalker.

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  2. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I like how Chris laid it all out and you're like "but he can just campaign" lol.

    They made it so campaigning isn't enough.

    But people with common sense would know that. :) Have a good day.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Hes never listened lol
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Imagine someone telling you not to do something, then when you do the thing they told you not to do, YOU yell at the person who just advised you not to do that.

    God people are fucking idiots.
     
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  5. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    i am hoping like hell that he runs as an independent. would make me cringe to see him on TV nightly again, but it would be worth it if he siphons 15-20 mil votes from republicans in 24.
     
  6. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Well, for one, redistricting happened all across the US, and didn't simply favor the Republicans.

    https://www.politico.com/2022-election/results/redistricting/

    Additionally.......

    https://apnews.com/article/2022-mid...ntis-florida-e55ed9a1743d63d704fe40ea1ebcfbcc

    The Florida governor made modest gains even among Black voters, who continue to back Democrats overwhelmingly; 18% of Black voters in Florida backed the Republican. He was supported by both men and women and voters across age groups. Majorities of college graduates and suburban voters supported him. Moderate voters split about evenly between DeSantis and Crist.

    Lilly DeLisi, a Puerto Rican voter who identified as liberal before Trump launched his candidacy in 2015, said she supports whoever she thinks has a better handle of the economy as the country reels from record-high inflation. She was supportive of DeSantis.

    “I don’t have to love who’s in charge,” DeLisi said. “Just to know that my dollar is going to go farther and that my gas and my money won’t be stretched so far, then I am going to vote for that person.”.......

    Indeed, it’s unclear whether the GOP’s gains with Latino voters are part of a fundamental shift in Florida or an anomaly related to a difficult political environment for Democrats. The Florida GOP’s success did not necessarily play out in other states like Texas, where Republicans were equally bullish.

    Juan Martinez, an adviser for the conservative Libre Initiative, said he continues to regard the Latino vote as a swing-vote community that can move in any direction in future elections. Latino voters, he said, require year-round attention to deliver political victories.

    “One day they can vote Republican, the next election they can vote Democrat,” Martinez said. “Educate on issues. Forget about the drama in Washington, D.C., and the division. They want real solutions.”

    National Democrats, meanwhile, have signaled little interest in competing for Latino votes in Florida. National campaign committees over the last year largely ignored the state, which is among the most expensive from a campaign perspective.

    Florida Democratic strategist Jose Parra called on his party to do some “soul searching.”

    “They need to think about whether they are going to concede Florida forever,” he said. “To me, that’s ludicrous given the fact that we were the largest swing state in the country, and the path to the White House for Republicans was impossible without Florida.”

    “Instead of throwing up their hands,” Parra said, “they should make a long-term investment.”
     
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  7. SlyPokerDog

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  8. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    .....Gov. Ron DeSantis and Sen. Marco Rubio, both Republicans, offer the latest evidence that Florida is becoming increasingly red. They soared to early reelection victories Tuesday, both winning Miami-Dade County, which Democrat Hillary Clinton carried by 29 percentage points in 2016.

    Florida has been a classic battleground. It twice helped propel Barack Obama to the White House. But the state, where the number of registered Democrats exceeded Republicans in 2020, has shifted increasingly to the right. That’s thanks to GOP inroads with Hispanic voters, as well as an influx of new residents, including many retirees, drawn to its lack of an income tax as well as its sunny weather.

    “Democrats really have to think about how they are going to rebuild there. The Obama coalition no longer exists,” said Carlos Curbelo, a Republican former member of Congress, who called Florida ”off the map for the foreseeable future” to Democrats.

    DeSantis won the governor’s office in 2018 by only about 30,000 votes. On Tuesday, he flipped at least six counties that he lost that year. Those counties were carried by Biden just two years ago.

    Some Democrats blame some of Tuesday’s blowout losses to a lack of investment by their party.

    “This is what happens when national Democrats decide to not spend money in the state,” said Greg Goddard, a Democratic fundraising consultant from Florida who raised money for Rep. Val Demings’ losing challenge of Rubio. “The pathway to Democrats winning future presidential elections is very thin if you do not plan to spend in Florida.”
     
  9. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Or run better candidates that aren't just whackadoodles or someone who has zero business running as governor (who never showed any interested in government in Oregon or Portland and then hot footed it out of town after he lost).
     
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  11. Chris Craig

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    We are talking about Florida. Yes, we can talk about other states too, but we are talking about Florida. The heaviest gerrymandered state outside of, if not more than Wisconsin.

    The majority of the black population did not vote for him. Many of them were scared off because of DeSantis's tactics, with his "special police force", his redistricting, and his biased moves to allow Republican areas hit by the hurricane special voting measures, while disallowing it in liberal areas. He didn't let the feds in for a reason. He knew what they would see.
     
  12. Chris Craig

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    Or people from other states suddenly living here to be on the ballot.
     
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  13. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You just don't get it.
     
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Hurry..... You think a year would be reasonable?

    You know what dude, my wife's sister was murdered by a stalker, who possessed a gun illegally. Your background checks and your classes, and your permits would not have stopped him.

    You know who could have used a gun when he burst into her apartment, pistol whipped her friend, and took her at gun point?

    But hey...... as long as she knew in advance that this guy had been stalking her for years, scheduled a class, put in for a permit, and waited for the police to decide that she was eligible to get a gun, she could go out and get something to protect herself. Because, you know, the police around here are soooooooooo great at responding quickly. We're all super pleased with the quality of our police.

    Or I guess she could have taken your advice and got a taser or some throwing stars or nun-chucks because those work really well against someone with a gun.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Historically, the majority of Florida's Black voters don't vote Republican. So, that's really saying nothing at all. DeSantis made some gains in that area, though.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Would pepper spray have helped you against that shooter?

    Would this law have stopped that shooter?

    All you did was put several barriers in the way of law abiding citizens, including cost that many low income people probably can't afford because the safety courses are not cheap. Do you think the shootings will stop in Portland? Do you think those people will go through the legal measures to lawfully own a gun?

    And the mass shooters are either legally buying them, in which case they're willing to wait and scheme, or they're stealing them from people who are willing to legally obtain them. Either way, this accomplishes nothing.
     
  17. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So if you make it so a group that doesn't vote for you, finds it hard to vote for the other guy because various forms of intimidation...
     
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  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The people who support these gun laws are the same people who mocked Trump and the MAGAs for wanting to "build a wall."

    Just wanted to point out the irony in that.
     
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  19. ABM

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    So, these gains in voting from Blacks were because they were intimidated to do so?

    https://apnews.com/article/2022-mid...ntis-florida-e55ed9a1743d63d704fe40ea1ebcfbcc

    ....The Florida governor made modest gains even among Black voters, who continue to back Democrats overwhelmingly; 18% of Black voters in Florida backed the Republican. He was supported by both men and women and voters across age groups. Majorities of college graduates and suburban voters supported him. Moderate voters split about evenly between DeSantis and Crist.
     
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    But this law wasn't in place then, was it? So it wasn't this law that stopped her from buying a gun.
     

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