Politics Nov. 2022 voting and election news

Boebert is gonna win. She’s down 60 votes and most of what remains is from areas that more heavily support her. That squeaker is just gonna squeak by.

 

Please show how this will decrease senseless gun violence. It is actually going to increase gun sales. I know I am going to buy two more guns before this goes through. As I said earlier most peoples handguns they have for personal protection are not illegal. Are they getting rid of those guns nope just going to buy a new gun that holds fewer bullets. So now instead of having 2 pistols I will have 3. Will it decrease gun violence doubtfully. They should be going after mental health, but that is not a hot topic like gun control. The gun manufactures love it because their sales are about to go through the roof.

 

Most people think they're the "law abiding citizen" who need a gun to protect themselves. Yet a lot of the gun violence ends up coming from those "law abiding citizens", see below:

Except study after study show that people living in homes with guns face substantially higher risks of being fatally assaulted or wounded.

"A new study from my research team, recently published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, shows no such benefits. We found the opposite: people living in homes with guns face substantially higher risks of being fatally assaulted.

Mass shootings are the most visible form of gun violence in America. But they account for a small fraction of all fatal shootings. Most of these deaths are lesser-known, private tragedies that occur in homes and on the streets."

"People living with handgun owners died by homicide at twice the rate of their neighbors in gun-free homes. That difference was driven largely by homicides at home, which were three times more common among people living with handgun owners.

We detected much larger differences for particular types of homicide. Most notably, people living with handgun owners were seven times more likely to be shot by their spouse or intimate partner. In many of these cases, instead of being protective, the household gun probably operated as the instrument of death.

An especially troubling finding was that the vast majority of victims in these intimate partner shootings—84% in all—were female. It stands to reason that women bear the brunt of any second-hand risks that flow from firearm ownership. That’s because most people who live with gun owners and don’t themselves own guns are women.

Study findings in one other area were noteworthy: homicides perpetrated by strangers. Homicides of this kind were relatively uncommon in our study population—much less common than deaths perpetrated by the victim’s partner, family members, or friends. But when they happened, people living with gun owners did not experience them less often than people in gun-free homes.

This result clashes with a classic narrative promulgated by gun rights groups: firearm owners use their weapon to turn away or overpower a threatening intruder, thereby protecting home and hearth. We did not detect even a hint of such protective benefits. If anything, our results suggest that cohabitants of handgun owners were more likely to be killed by strangers, although that result did not reach statistical significance."

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Violent Crime and Homicide rates are worse in states with weaker gun laws:

• States that received an “F” grade based on the strength of their gun laws—according to the latest scorecard from the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence—saw the highest homicide rates: 14
  • States with “F” grades saw 25 percent higher homicide rates than states with “C” or “D” grades.15
  • States with “F” grades saw 61 percent higher homicide rates than states with “A” or “B” grades—states with the strongest gun laws.16
• Children and teenagers are most vulnerable in states with weaker gun laws:
  • In 2020, the 10 states with the highest rates of gun deaths among children and teenagers ages 1 to 19 were Louisiana, Alaska, Mississippi, South Carolina, Arkansas, Kansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri, and Alabama.17 All of these states received an “F” grade for their weak gun laws.
• Reports also suggest that rates of nonfatal gunshot injuries sustained during assaults are higher in states with weaker gun laws:
  • In 2017, the year with available data across states, states that received an “F” grade had a rate of nonfatal gunshot injuries that was 22 percent higher than states with “C” or “D” grades and 59 percent higher than states with “A” or “B” grades.18

Report: States with strong laws see less gun violence
States with weaker gun laws have higher rates of firearm related homicides and suicides, study finds
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But hey, keep fighting the good fight brah.

 

I get that, this bill was just not written well. To many people voted for it not knowing what they were truly voting for. The see gun control and voted for it with no clue what was in the bill.

 

Fake News!!

 

According to their website, they are only releasing results at 6:00 each day.

 

You responded to your own post? That’s honestly impressive. I don’t even think Sly has done that and he’s the biggest attention whore on this site (love you sly).

 

That’s honestly amazing logic.

Being around guns increases your chance at being shot. Amazing. How many people did it take to figure that out? Should I commission a study to see if driving increases your chance at getting in a car wreck? How about flying increases your chance at dying in a plan crash? Or maybe lung cancer from smoking?

They’re not gonna release a similar study for knives because everyone has a knife in their house. Literally everyone.

But…….”In the USA victims and offenders of knife violence are more likely to be female, less likely to be minorities, and are significantly older than firearm victims and offenders. The victim and offender in the case of a knife homicide are also significantly more likely to be closely related to one another. Unlike many other countries, in the USA the problem of knife violence appears much more similar to domestic violence than the typical street crime involving firearms.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36148686/

Is it possible that crimes of passion or suicide will involve the most convenient option, whether it’s a gun or a knife or their bare fists?

And if we remove guns from the equation, do you think someone who snapped is going to suddenly have a clear head and think, “well shit I don’t have a gun. I need to calm down and not kill my wife.”

 

I feel like I've seen HCP do it a few times recently without quoted his prior post (to limit exposing himself as an even bigger tool than he already is).

 

Who is the HCP?

 

That's honestly "amazing" logic. I type shit that completely proves your argument is bullshit and you turn to knives. Keep going, you're really doing well here.

 

We are talking about domestic violence, no? Or do you think the guns come alive and start shooting people? Once again, you and many people like you seem to think that guns are the reason for killing and not the method. It’s not domestic violence or suicide. It’s the guns. Do you think that guns have some kind of hypnotic power? I have lived around guns my entire life. I have never shot anyone. I have never had the urge to shoot someone. Maybe it’s like Jedi mind tricks. You have to have a weak mind? Are you worried that if you had a gun it would corrupt you?

 

99% reporting. Boebert down 64 votes. That election isn't going to be resolved any time soon. How many recounts will there be? How many challenged ballots?

 

... Thanks for agreeing with me, I guess?

Cars are not meant to be weapons and it’s been proven that driving a car gets you to other places faster than walking. Kitchen knives have been shown to help cut food and such so they also seem to have a purpose other than warding off all the home intruders you’ve been having. If our educational system hadn’t failed you and you knew how to read, you’d have read:

This result clashes with a classic narrative promulgated by gun rights groups: firearm owners use their weapon to turn away or overpower a threatening intruder, thereby protecting home and hearth. We did not detect even a hint of such protective benefits. If anything, our results suggest that cohabitants of handgun owners were more likely to be killed by strangers, although that result did not reach statistical significance."

So if it doesn't have the purpose you keep harping about, and as you said, "being around guns increases your chance of being shot", then.............

Great argument, lol. It's like, yeah smoking does cause more lung cancer, so maybe don't do it?

If your argument is to simply point to other inanimate objects and say, well if you own a pencil it's more likely you'll stab someone with a pencil so therefore we should make guns easier to buy, then go for it. To say that's flawed logic is an understatement. But really the headline is you can still buy more bang-bangs, so you’ll be okay. You're really overreacting.

I had no idea you think you represent the precise character, background, restraint and circumstance of every other person in the state.

 

The Oregonian and OPB just called it for Kotek.

 

I'm thrilled Kari Lake lost and Boebert is behind and facing a loss.