Game Thread 2022-23 Game #12 BLAZERS @ PELICANS - NOVEMBER 10, 2022 - THURSDAY - 5:00 PM (PDT) ROOT

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Chris Craig, Nov 8, 2022.

  1. AldoTrapani

    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2019
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    2,695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Guys it’s crazy how both Blazers and Seahawks outperforming expectations in the same damn year. Are we sure we want Jody to sell? Seems to me she knows exactly what she’s doing
     
    42N8Bounce likes this.
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,738
    Likes Received:
    55,374
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    It’s hilarious to go read Pels fans saying basically the same shit we said about CJ for years.
     
  3. beast blazer

    beast blazer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2018
    Messages:
    5,300
    Likes Received:
    3,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Jerami reminds me if cliff robinson.
     
    Eastoff, Duckhook and Tince like this.
  4. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your memory is failing you then. Though we run way more zone than we used to. Oh, and zone (in the NBA) can help hide one bad defender, not really 2 or 3.

    I think Billups is a better defensive coach (actually Rogers) than Stotts or any assistant he had. Though, back to roster being the most important thing. Last year Billups (and Rogers) were "coaching their ass off" and we were the 2nd worst defensive team in the league. And we were playing more zone than in previous years. Why? Because our roster wasn't a great defensive roster!

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defense?Season=2021-22&dir=D&sort=DEF_RATING
     
    bobf and andalusian like this.
  5. OneSport3

    OneSport3 The Knowledge Hoarder

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2009
    Messages:
    3,287
    Likes Received:
    5,696
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I hope all the fans that disavowed the team and swore not to watch any more Blazers games because the franchise hired Chauncey really kept their word so they are not getting the opportunity to enjoy this team right now.
     
  6. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They're bagging on Willie Green too. Shocker.
     
  7. twobullz

    twobullz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Messages:
    2,339
    Likes Received:
    3,255
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Central Oregon
    I think Watford might be one of my favorite stories. Undrafted, but so smart. He might not put up big numbers, but makes so man of the hustle plays and smart decisions. Just seems to know what to do and where to be to help the team. Plus he plays good defense and can switch onto lots of different players.
     
    Idog1976, Eastoff, Duckhook and 8 others like this.
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,738
    Likes Received:
    55,374
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    That’s their secret... They never watched any games to begin with.
     
  9. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,364
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What did he have to go through?

    I thought it was a pretty relaxed low pressure situation. Compare that to what Nash went through with the Nets or Ham on the Lakers.
     
    Fairly-Hard likes this.
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,738
    Likes Received:
    55,374
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Does CJ have some kind of Jedi mind trick to get these coaches to never stop him from jacking up shots?
     
    SIeepwalker and blazerkor like this.
  11. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    15,009
    Likes Received:
    14,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Marcos, CA
    Terry was not the problem, which does not mean Chauncey could be better in time...
     
    Tince likes this.
  12. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If you could trade Grant, Hart, Winslow, or Sharpe for any of the 20+ forwards we had from 2015-22, how many one for one trades would you make?

    The fact you have to pause to think if you'd take back our best forward over a 7 year stretch for the 4th best forward on this years roster shows you just how bad it was!
     
    SIeepwalker and Wizard Mentor like this.
  13. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,738
    Likes Received:
    55,374
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Terry was part of the problem. There was no one problem. Neil was a problem. CJ was a problem. Stotts was a problem.
     
    BBert, Idog1976, AmirIcon and 2 others like this.
  14. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,364
    Likes Received:
    9,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah this is the difference, more so than Stotts vs Billups.

    Although I agree with the point Stotts ran Dame and other starters way too hard.

    But Stotts got plenty out of shitty players. Making a WCF with a Harmless Aminu one armed Kanter front court is pretty amazing.
     
    KSF-ERIC and Tince like this.
  15. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    100%... We don't have to drag Billups to defend Stotts or the other way around.

    Olshey is gone, we finally have good forwards, and our guys are playing great. It's fun!
     
    KSF-ERIC, Idog1976 and 42N8Bounce like this.
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,738
    Likes Received:
    55,374
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Does 2015 include LMA?
     
  17. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    37,098
    Likes Received:
    15,963
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    Players were in bad habits from the previous coach. Covington and Powell were good defenders when they came to Portland. Billups we’re trying to implement new stuff and guys with old habits didn’t buy in.

    I do agree it takes good defenders to have a good defense. But I apparently weigh the scheme of things more heavily than you do. Billups and staff are way better schematically then Stotts and his multiple staffs. And I don’t think from a personnel point that we’re night and day a roster of better defenders. Maybe slight upgrades with Grant being the exception. The type of long rangey defender we’ve always needed.
     
    Wizard Mentor likes this.
  18. Haakzilla

    Haakzilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    9,403
    Likes Received:
    7,388
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    SEOWebDesignLLC.com
    Location:
    Central Oregon
  19. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,624
    Likes Received:
    16,768
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I mean Cliffy wasn't close to as athletic as Jerami is but I guess he was for his time at the PF spot. Cliff was and Jerami is really good and versatile but not great on both ends.
     
  20. BoBoBREWSKI

    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    13,852
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NW
    Great win. I love this team. First time we’ve had a TEAM in a long time.
     
    BBert, Eastoff, SlyPokerDog and 3 others like this.

Share This Page