What does this team need most?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by illmatic99, Dec 28, 2022.

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Trade deadline goal

  1. Backup big

    40.5%
  2. Defensive wing

    43.2%
  3. Playmaking guard

    5.4%
  4. Stay out of the tax

    5.4%
  5. Don't waste any assets on fringe players

    32.4%
  6. This roster has it all once it gets fully healthy. Don't affect the chemistry.

    2.7%
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  1. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    No. We need to start looking toward the future. Time to turn the page
     
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    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Brian Grant was on the court tonight getting a big check for his foundation. He looked really good actually. Great to see.
     
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    yep...like tonight:

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  4. blazerfan11

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    Tonight, down by 9 points, the unit with 3 starters (Hart, Simons, Nurk) and Walker and Sharpe was playing well at the start of the 4th quarter whittling down the lead.

    That unit got the lead down to 5 points. The Magic called a time out.

    Then, for no reason I could see, Chauncey substituted Lillard and Grant back into the game. Why?
    That Blazer unit with 2 bench players was playing well. You might not see it in the box score.
    There are times when the bench is contributing but Chauncey puts starters back in anyway.
    Walker and Sharpe weren't playing perfectly, but in the end you have to look at the scoreboard.
    With 8:50 left in the game, that was way to early to pull the plug and go with experienced crunch time players. It wasn't crunch time.
     
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    So you give up Grant for Pascal? Why?
     
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    Magic in a bottle.

    Portland is extremely limited in the kind of moves they can make. It’s a small-market team in a mostly white town that gets a lot of rain. NBA stars don’t want to come here, even though we have a great point guard. The big names in free agency always pick a more glamorous destination, and in this new era of player movement Portland can’t compete. They can tinker around the edges with small moves (which they’ve been doing for years), but it’s very hard to move the needle.
     
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  7. Fairly-Hard

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    What adjustments did Mosely make? I do get your point but the Blazers continued to cut into the lead and actually tied the game. Portland outscored them 33-27 in the 4th quarter?
    Dame is who hit that 3 at the end of the 3rd and brought the score back to a 9 point lead.

    The answer to your question is at 8:50 Mosley put Banchero and Fultz back into the game. Chauncey countered by pulling Sharp and Walker and putting in Lillard and Grant.



    +2 89-82
    9:12.0 89-82 Turnover by J. Nurkić (bad pass; steal by F. Wagner)
    8:54.0 Turnover by W. Carter (lost ball; steal by J. Nurkić) 89-82
    8:51.0 89-84 +2 A. Simons makes 2-pt layup from 1 ft (assist by J. Hart)
    8:50.0 Orlando full timeout 89-84
    8:50.0 P. Banchero enters the game for T. Ross 89-84
    8:50.0 M. Fultz enters the game for J. Suggs 89-84
    8:50.0 89-84 J. Grant enters the game for S. Sharpe
    8:50.0 89-84 D. Lillard enters the game for J. Walker
    8:25.0 P. Banchero misses 2-pt jump shot from 5 ft 89-84
    8:22.0 Offensive rebound by W. Carter 89-84
     
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    I was told that Portland is paradise.
     
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    Dynamite or C4 works for me, blow it the fuck up!
     
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    If you had got choose between the two who would you choose?
    Actually I would prefer to have both on the team if it all possible.
     
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    A change of scenery....like Seattle.
     
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    A stiff kick in the ass.
     
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    I would do it straight up.
     
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    That was my point. If you get Pascal you still want Grant. If you have both with Lillard Hart and Nurk you are an instant contender.
     
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    The problem is it never gets that much better, even when you blow it up.
     
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    the 'problem' is many of those advocating a blow-up won't go full bore into a blow-up

    a blow-up means trading Dame, Ant, Nurkic, Grant, and Hart. Otherwise it's just more purgatory
     
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    But even then there’s no guarantee. You can trade the entire team and still not end up with anything better.
     
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    for sure

    the disconnect of the 'trade-Dame' narrative seems to be the belief that somehow, someway, there's a path to a player of Dame's level, or better, that starts with trading Dame

    it took 15 years to go from Bill Walton to prime Clyde Drexler; and it took 25 years to go from Clyde to prime Dame. Players of that caliber just don't come down the road that often. A couple of months ago, one of the biggest advocates here for trading Dame predicted it would be around 7 years before the Blazers might become a contender. Which is 3 years after Ant's contract ends. yeeeeesh

    tearing it all down, becoming absolutely shitty for a few years, and hoping for incredible lottery luck is a plan, but it's the kind of plan that fails a hell of a lot more often than it succeeds. Minnesota has won 3 playoff game in the last 18 years and have a losing record in their 19th year. Sacramento hasn't even played a playoff game since 2006...17 years
     
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    How many years did it take to go from Brandon Roy to Lillard? Why does it need to be torn down?
     

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