Gary Payton II Trade to the Warriors

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  1. HomerLovesKoolAid

    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    Now you've got it.
    Welcome to the forum!
     
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    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    And in the future?
     
  3. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Just through the end of this basketball year--so until July 1.
     
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    Irish Trader Erin go Braugh

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    The cost of Gary Payton II is what I would call a tremendous mistake. He played in 15 of 54 games which is 31%. At 8.3 mil being on the roster for 54 of 82 games cost $5,465,853 of his 8.3 mil contract. He scored a total of 61 points during that 54 game span. That works out to $89,604 dollars for every point scored. Such a deal GM
     
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    Basically, we were the third wheel in a 3-team trade involving only one team.
     
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    Tremendous mistakes have far reaching consequences, this doesn't. It was a headscratcher from the beginning because we were already stocked with talented guards including one that does all of the things GP2 does but is bigger and taller and I don't think slower in Josh. That being said, we weren't going into the tax this season so the hard cap didn't matter and so we picked up 5 second rounders and have no residual penalties going forward. I think using the miniMLE on a big would have been the right move and most of us thought that at the time, so it was a mistake but that mistake now has no consequences.
     
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    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    Wow nobody on the Blazers posted a goodbye to GP2 haha
     
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    OneSport3 The Knowledge Hoarder

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    So I guess he wasn’t dogging it when he was delaying his come back.

     
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  9. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    BRO WTF
     
  10. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Fuuuuck
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Not so fast, my friend
     
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  12. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Massive disaster if somehow the trade gets voided. Returning to the team after all that was said. We would need to pay to dump him after....

    Also if this gets voided I think we are in the luxury tax aren't we?
     
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    I don't know what I've posted about this trade (which HOPEFULLY happens), but:
    • The Blazers needed to get size in the off-season, and instead we signed Payton
    • Payton is not a very good player. He's been on the verge of bouncing out of the NBA many times, and he's almost never healthy. He had a good stretch on Golden State, who has a pretty good team with or without him
    • I never saw a situation where Payton was going to help the Blazers much
    • I had no idea he was having interpersonal issues--I don't pay attention to body language of professional basketball players and/or try to read minds, which means that sometimes I miss that sort of thing
    • I don't know how much value the second rounders we will (hopefully!) receive have, but it's more than keeping Payton on the roster
    • I would rather have taken a chance on Wiseman than take those picks
    • I don't know what big guy we could have added instead of Payton in the offseason, but I strongly suspect the team would be better now if we had signed someone decent with that money
    Hopefully the trade goes through and we can root against him as a Warrior :)
     
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  14. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    Had Cronin made this trade a week or two before the deadline, like he did last year, he'd have more time to work around this.

    Guess waiting until the last minute isn't always the best move!
     
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    Tince Well-Known Member

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    Or Golden St has us by the balls and are looking to extract extra compenstation knowing a voided trade puts Jody into the tax.

    The Warriors have all the power.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Five second round picks is about to turn into one or two second rounders

    :biglaugh:
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    What even are the rules for this? It's past the deadline, can they amend the trade?



    Conspiracy theory would say Payton is the cause of this. Reports are he had issues with the doctors that cleared him and he thought he wasn't ready. But he was clearly playing games anyways, maybe he's taking a different "approach" with the Warriors training staff?
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    They do? If this trade fails, they get an extra how many $ on their tax because Wiseman goes back there, no?
     
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    Hopefully they don’t void because they want to keep the savings.
     
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  20. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    Blazers would be in the tax as well. Meaning if they made a big move this summer, they'd be in repeater tax territory.

    The Warriors ownereship group have shown a willingness to pay the tax. Portland has not.
     

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