Trade DEADline fallout: The Aftermath

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What Grade would you give the Trade Deadline moves?

  1. A (I'm Joe Cronin's valet)

    2 vote(s)
    2.9%
  2. B (I love 2nd round Draft picks)

    18 vote(s)
    25.7%
  3. C

    24 vote(s)
    34.3%
  4. D

    14 vote(s)
    20.0%
  5. What the 'F'

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  1. robe

    robe Member

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    My bad, I should remember he cant be traded. But for "bad look", I don't know if this team can have worse "look" than now.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Trading dame sure would
     
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    Strenuus question. That would be "bad look" for who exactly? And what would be the consequences?

    I think trading dame for young future would be the first thing Danny Ainge would do and I don't think it is unusual for professional teams in sports to trade players to get better. What I think is unusual in professional sports is a professional team not trying to win and Blazers are not trying.
    They could trade 7th pick and trade Simons and Little for a run for Damian and I would be happy for the doing so. What they do is wasting another year of his career and wasting another year for the fans. What are we waiting for? Because it looks like we are waiting for Dame to brake all the records, playing40mins a game for losing team, then there will be statue in front of Moda and then finally Blazers can reset and start again. From zero.

    Unless I am blind and there is some kind of plan to win it all and I just don't see it.
    I am addicted to this team and I love Dame's game. But for 25 years I've been addicted to Blazers, not Dame and this is going nowhere. It would be really exiting and good for my mental health to see this team stacked with young talent having fun together. What this team is now is depressing and, from what I see, for players as well.

    So, this question again. What would be this "bad look" consequences exactly?
     
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    Jason Kidd, and quite possibly Chris Paul (Finally!) this year, leading a team at PG and still hitting open shots and finding teammates. If Dame wasn't such an insanely good shooter I would worry that when his athleticism drops off he'd have nothing left, but Dame is a vastly better shooter than Paul or Kidd and while a tier below them in passing, not by much. I explained exactly what I would try for and I believe Cronin is doing. To get a bunch of players on Sharpe and Ant's timeline and Dame will lead them in grizzled veteran fashion to a ring. That's what I want to happen, and it seems like we are trading along those lines. And if Dame should retire we will have a strong team to build off of. You can't trade Dame unless he asks out and I don't see that happening.

    In my dream Scenario Sharpe puts it all together. Honestly, our single best shot at a title given what we had this year is that in a year or two Sharpe breaks out and becomes an All-Star on his way towards becoming a Superstar. You ALWAYS have to get lucky to win a championship. We also could get lucky and get a top 3 pick. It's not likely, but Sharpe plus a top 3 pick, plus Dame, plus Ant, plus grant, plus a Knicks 1st in a deep draft, you have a young team that's extremely talented. The point is we need some things to break right for us.

    Eventaully, you need to trade for a player like Durant when there is a disgruntled superstar by stockpiling assets *gestures to growing draft pick pile and young players** OR you get super lucky in the draft. I personally believe in Sharpe and think he will be a Superstar some day. If we also strike gold in this draft we can be loaded with young talent which we can either trade for a star to put next to Dame, Grant, Sharpe and Ant or who themselves break out into All-Star talent. There is a way forward but it's not going to be easy, and it's likely not going to be quick.
     
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  5. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I seriously have to answer why it would be bad optics to a fanbase if they just up and traded dame?

    It's the most obvious answer. I'll let you figure it out. Wow. Lmao.
     
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    Ah, to a fanbase... To a fanbase, I get it now. Fanbase that have to watch this shitshow Blazers playing this season? Or a fanbase that is watching Blazers hitting 1st round wall since WW2?
    I truly believe, that this fanbase would be ok with it very next season after trade happen, watching someone like Giddey playing aleyoops with Sharpe. For two reasons: 1. It is 2023 and people forgeting things after 5 mins. And 2: Fresh is always exiting.
     
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    From the mouth of one of the greatest GM's ever.... But I do hope he's right this time.
     
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    A couple things in there were encouraging, Reddish was 12th among wings in block % (although I'm surprised the stats guru didn't point out what a limited sample that was based on) and Thybulle, although not a shooter is in the 94th percentile of wings when he gets it to the basket.
     
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    If it was real we shoulda traded Simons and picks, or whatever the rumored deal was, for SGA at the beginning of the season.
     
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    wut?
     
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    Wasn’t there some Reddit trade rumor at the beginning of the season that everyone was talking about on here about SGA? Maybe I’m wrong but if it was true we shoulda pounced.
     
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    I don't think there was any chance of that being real. SGA was a couple of tiers better than Ant last season. And if Simons was involved in a S&T last summer he would have been BYC and the BYC differential would have made him nearly impossible to trade
     
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    I think one of two things will happen this off season. We will either make a blockbuster trade on draft night for a superstar and possibly another solid role player who is a good fit or Joe will go to Dame and tell him he doesn't think we can compete during his prime and ask Dame what he wants to do essentially forcing Dame to ask for a trade in July which we will give him.
     
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    Long athletic freaks. Who woulda thunk it
     
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    1. Superstar?
    Star like Bridges or Siakam? Yes.
    The Chicago pick is gone or returned (than you, Knicks and Joe) and picks free.

    2. Dame traded right then? In a blockbuster night after pre-draft “star conversations” are kaput AND rip that bandage off all at once! The bidding war during the summer is annoying unless teams load up during the draft with what we want to maximize what we’d want.
    Full-on Ant/Shaedon rebuild … old guys need not apply.

    A roster of Bridges, Cam Thomas, Grant, Ant, and Shaedon (with a couple Phoenix picks?)

    EDIT: PLEASE IGNORE THE ABOVE NONSENSE.
     
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    lol....c'mon man

    let me ask you a question: if your team had Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Dinwiddie, and a boatload of draft picks would you trade them for 33 year old Damian Lillard. That was a rhetorical question because of course you wouldn't, and neither would the Nets

    also, Johnson is RFA this summer and will be getting a much bigger deal making him BYC, so he'll be really difficult to fit into a trade
     
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    Ibaka just got waived. We are well below the tax and can sign a player if we wanted to.

    Just need to waive someone like Ryan A.
     
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    He would help us win so if we don't do anything about it that might be telling but the very frustrating nature of being a fan is that we won't know if the team just doesn't give a shit or if they talked to him and he wasn't interested.
     
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    Did you think the Lakers would trade for Russell Westbrook?
    Brooklyn isn't Utah. It's a huge market with a desire to "win now" and I think they would be very interested in Lillard.
    Edit: Mikal Bridges may be a great overall player but who's going to sell more tickets? Mikal Bridges or Damial Lillard? Not even close.
     
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