Gary Payton II Trade to the Warriors

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    refresh my memory?
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    When Draymond sucker punched jordan poole, the footage was leaked somehow.
     
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    That's the way I see it playing out. The attention span of the pundits and fans ended with the accusation.

    Again, I think the Blazers should be able to file a countercomplaint because a team or player throwing out a charge like this if it turns out to be baseless is effectively a kind of tampering, but I don't believe the NBA would take that step against the Warriors. If it was someone like the Hornets or Magic, they probably would.
     
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    The video of Draymond punching Jordan Poole from training camp. That video doesn’t get out unless the Warriors wanted it to get out.
     
  5. wizenheimer

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    that's quite a reach

    I'd think they would be worried about their business and if it came out they were lying about one of their players it would hurt their business, a lot
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    That’s what I was implying the Goodwins are going to back Dame and the Blazers over GP.
     
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    Yep, why would Goodwin lie about his own client and risk a lawsuit? I do believe Dame probably influenced Goodwin to say something, but I think that "something" is the truth. It makes no sense that either of them would want Goodwin to lie about it. We are not talking about a criminal offense here, no reason to hurt your career over a trade.
     
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    Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. They are more wanting to have the back of the team that just signed their client to a billion dollar deal than GP and the Warriors.
     
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    I will say I find it a little curious that other than a brief comment in Cronin's press conference, the Blazers have not said anything to defend themselves....and they are definitely taking damage
     
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    Exactly.

    For the allegations to be true, the Blazers have to be both corrupt and thoroughly incompetent and at least two people that would have knowledge of this situation who spoke out with no reason to do so would have to be complete liars: Goodwin and Josh Hart.

    Like I said earlier, somehow you have to explain why the Blazers would let a role player sit out half the season, come back and play sparingly and still force him to play while letting both stars and fellow role players to sit out sometimes lengthy periods. You also have to explain how Payton was forced to do anything, because I can't think of any players in this day and age being forced to do anything.
     
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    WHat do you want them to say? How can a comment help them in this? Wait til all the facts are out and then make a statement.
     
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    One other thing I've noticed that I think is a little bit convenient about this whole episode. The allegations against the Blazers have shifted.

    The original narrative was that the Blazers essentially abused Payton, who really wasn't healthy enough to play and was being shot up with painkillers when he still needed to be out for the rest of the season.

    Now it's that the Blazers didn't thoroughly report Payton's health status to GS. That complaint's a far cry from where this started.

    That's what one would expect when someone makes a bogus charge and is trying to save face.
     
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    so they are lying about the injections? I don't understand what it is you're implying. Either Payton received the injections or he didn't. Payton's agent said he didn't. Payton hasn't disputed that. There may be a slight bit of wiggle room in what the agent said, but it's a very tight wiggle
     
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    I'll just put this here.

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    I doubt that all the facts will be public. The NBA may not assess any penalty against the Blazers and there may never be any certainty about the Toradol

    and of course, if Payton didn't receive any Toradol as a Blazer, that's a pretty easy statement to release. The Warriors are alleging it happened. Payton's agent is saying it didn't. The Blazers are mum
     
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    I agree that Dame is their most high profile and most lucrative client. They would always side with Dame. But this is not between Dame and the Warriors or Dame and GP2. This is between the Blazers and Warriors. I don’t see why they would risk their business integrity or open themselves to a potential lawsuit from GP2 if there was no benefit to Dame or themselves.
     
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    Better believe ill be there and ill leave with no voice!
     
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    Talks ongoing? You mean talks of back peddling false accusations?
     
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    You missed my point.
    There is no reason for him to pick a side. Just stay quiet on the situation... there's no downside to stay quiet.
     
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    There's no incentive to get into the cross-fire when he could just stay silent.

    Your theory just doesn't make sense
     

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