The "Sharpe just did some crazy shit!" thread

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  1. TBpup

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    It would seem to be a very Portland thing to do. Would love to see Dame get a title here, but without massive luck (the #1), AND a major player requesting a trade (Embiid, Brown, Siakam, etc), and then some vets coming here on the cheap to ring chase, I don't see it happening in the time frame necessary to get Dame a ring in Portland. I REALLY hope that management doesn't gut the future of young talent and Draft picks, to go after half measures.
     
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    Incorrect, I love the Blazers, but don’t want to see fans suffer, unless those fans are delusional.
     
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    Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Boston … someone’s gone fishin’ after the 2nd round. If it’s 1st round and done, watch out.
    Miami, Brooklyn, Toronto … odds-on 1st round and done.

    Shake that tree.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    So you want people with mental disorders to suffer?!?!

    You heartless bastard...
     
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    Yeah, some of these teams with all nba talent are going to get beaten in the first round and if they get beaten badly they'll be looking to shake things up. People keep acting like all nba players don't get moved every off season and just about every off season at least one does. Then some in here say that we're for sure going to get outbid if we do go after a big time talent, like the Thunder on the trajectory they're on would be targeting the same star that we would.

    It's cool we've had to deal with a lot of disappointing off seasons for a long time, so I understand why so many in here think this will just be another one but I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.
     
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    How can you possibly watch him and think all he can do is dunk? He certainly makes rookie mistakes, because he is...... 19. But in another 5 years (SGA's age) how good will he be? I will take my chances.

    Now I love SGA...he is a star PG for sure. But a trade like you suggested I assume would be to help Dame win now. But how do we know if two PGs would even work well together? They often do not because they tend to only excel with the ball in their hands.
     
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    Exactly right. If the following teams lose in the 2nd round or earlier....and teams seem to like to trade out of their conference.

    Bucks - Will likely run it back trying to make some minor upgrades
    Celtics - Might look to balance things out. Tatum and Brown at times seem to get in each others way No t much balance with the backcourt.
    76'ers - Could be the biggest blowup. If Harden moves on, Embiid may ask out.
    Cavs - still in growth mode. More experience and minor moves.
    Knicks - Who knows with the Knicks. Likely stuck in mediocrity for a while.
    Heat - Could be ripe for a major shake up as they have been up and down since their '20 Finals appearance....but trending in the wrong direction.
    Nets - they already blew it up. Would they move Bridges right after getting him?
    Hawks - '21 is looking more and more like a fluke.
    Raptors - Can't imagine they continue to go on without making some major moves.
    Bulls - injuries have decimated that rosters.
     
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    Ant is the odd man out. Sharpe could be a legit two-way threat and his growth has been insane.

    Watch his range now from three. You can clearly see Dame wearing off on him.

     
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    Obviously a ways to go on both ends, but you can see the potential. Already a threat from '3', if he can improve his handle to create space, he becomes a dual threat. Add to that the additional size and defensive recovery ability on the defensive end, and from an all-around standpoint, he has the ability to be the best backcourt player since Clyde. As important as any of his physical skills, will be the mental maturation. How much alpha does he have in him?
     
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    Dallas looks fantastic! They lost last night at home to the team with the 4th worst record in the NBA (Charlotte).
    Dallas is 2-6 in their last 8 games. Playoff push?
    More like tanking since they are not even in the play-in now.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think he has looked a lot more confident and aggressive lately.
     
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    Sharpe is getting a chance to play through mistakes which is what he always needed. So little real opportunity court time in the last 2 years. Now he needs to make the most of what should be 30+ minutes a night for the rest of the season.
     
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    I still come back to Ant + picks for Siakam. Not likely to end up with Embiid or Giannis, but Siakam I think would be better than Jimmy Butler honestly.
     
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    For a REALLY big move, I wonder if the Blazers send the Knicks pick to the Bulls to satisfy the 1st round pick obligation. Then they could trade say the '25/27 pick/picks if it was for a huge piece. That would be risky or would need some protection, because by the time of those later picks, Dame will be that much older and Father Time is undefeated.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Honestly, it gives me a reason to watch the games the rest of the season. I'll tune in for Nightshade.
     
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    you mean the 2nd best back court player since Clyde because Dame is pretty obviously the best guard Portland has ever had...

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    I'm a huge Dame fan. He's been the main reason I've watched games over the last few years because the team has always had olshey-issues. But Sharpe has become a secondary reason to watch so I'd hate to see him traded

    being that huge of a Dame fan, I'd be open to mortgaging SOME, a little-not-all, of the future to try and give Dame a shot at a title. But if the Blazers are giving up multiple first's + Sharpe + Ant + filler for a player, it had better be a top-15 player. You don't give up that kind of package for Siakam, And I remain convinced that kind of package will fall well below the level of what other teams would offer for this hypothetical top-15 player. Way too many teams have young players who have shown as much as Sharpe and still have much better draft assets to use as leverage

    there's another factor as well: Portland IS taking care of Dame and IS trying to give him that shot. Last summer, they gave him an additional 121M dollars, guaranteed. The Blazers have paid Dame close to 230M and are scheduled to pay him 225M more. Portland has rewarded Dame as much as they could have excluding a ring. And they did that as they were dismantling a dysfunctional roster of mismatched role players in an effort to create a path to contention

    I would hope Blazer management has had some honest and practical conversations with Dame about what the situation is. The Blazers, thru contracts, have already mortgaged much of their future in a commitment to Dame. Mortgaging most of what other future they have in hand, right now, chasing what may be a very faint dream would not be good for the franchise. Dame has to know this and since he's not stupid I think he probably does know this

    meaning the ball is in his court. Portland is unlikely to find a path to immediate contention this in the next draft and this summer. Portland becoming a contender over the next 2-3 seasons is likely a long-shot at best. So Dame has to decide if the 225M Portland will pay him over the next 4+ seasons plus being in the city he obviously cares about is enough. If retiring without a ring is balanced by other factors. If it's not then Dame has to decide if he wants to be traded. But Portland HAS to tell Dame that they will look for the best deal they can find and that does not guarantee he will be traded to a contender

    in other words, Dame has two choices IMO: 1) he can accept that the Blazers will be holding onto their best youth and best future picks and won't trade him if he doesn't ask; or 2) he can ask for a trade and accept he has no leverage to demand a destination
     
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    I heard Chicago gets to make the decision on that Knicks pick. Should the Blazers offer it?? Absolutely! That pick dropped off the high assets table when Josh Hart helped New York go on a massive winning streak. Trying to combine #22 with let's say #6 probably won't bump it up to #4 or #5.
     
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    Shae has every possible tool, including defense. He's confident, measured, in control, and unflappable. And 19 years old. The Blazers have only two players I would not trade: Dame and Sharpe.
     
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    from an all-around standpoint, he has the ability to be the best backcourt player since Clyde.

    Conveniently, the previous part of that sentence was left out, and I had just mentioned Sharpe's defensive potential. Dame is by far the best offensive player, but you have to either forget, ignore or try to rationalize the defensive side for most of his career. What has made it worse for his career, is GM's that add another guard who doesn't play defense next to him......set up for failure.

    It's all potential with Sharpe on both sides, and who knows how far either side will go, but it's fascinating to think about.
     
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