Highkin: Brandon Roy repping Blazers at lottery

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  1. 42N8Bounce

    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    I figured you’d pick up on that detail.
     
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    I don't dislike Aldridge, but I see a significant difference. LMA rejected the Blazers. He could have come back. We wanted him to.
    Roy did not reject the Blazers, he could not have played for the Blazers.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/2012/11/brandon_roy_opens_up_about_why_he_came_back_what_i.html

    Good to see that he patched things up with Paul.....if true
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I have some fond memories of Roy, but I also remember some reports towards the end of him being unhappy that Oden was being featured in the offense. I remember him not wanting Andre Miller to start. There was some reports of his personality changing once he became a star, which we have NEVER heard about Dame.

    Roy is not Dame. He did some great things for this team, but it was for such a short period of time, and towards the end he did some things that put a bad taste in my mouth. But hey.... if he can get us the #1 pick again, all will be forgiven.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    It's funny how some people are so concerned about saving the Paul Allen Estate some money. Makes sense why there is no backlash to them ducking the tax year in and year out.
     
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    I remember all those incidents with Roy too... I just consider them insignificant when compared to the hundreds or maybe thousands of awesome things he did right.

    I don't expect perfection. Dame is unique and we shouldn't be comparing others to him IMO. His maturity is off the charts even among the LeBron level superstars. Thats just not normal and shouldn't be expected.

    All was forgiven with Roy many years ago from myself and many others. He doesn't have to do anything to receive cheers and Blazers support. We can appreciate all that he did well even if he had a few incidents that maybe weren't ideal. If he chooses to be more involved with this franchise in the future that would be great. But if he chooses to lay low, I wish him the best too.
     
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    This is kind of silly, isn’t it? What are the odds that a guy who got us the #1 pick the last time he appeared at the lottery will do it again? The odds of that happening have to be astronomical.
     
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    I'm going to take a wild guess its 10.5%
     
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    Now if you want to say the odds in 2007 before that draft lottery, that Roy would represent the team with the #1 pick in 2007 (5.3%) and then that same team 16 years later as 5th seed with revised lottery odds would send him again and the team would receive a second #1 overall pick (10.5%) yeah it'd be much smaller.

    .053 * .105 = 0.005565 or 0.5565% chance. So yes around a 1 in 200 chance.

    But since all those events already have happened except for one, we are currently at about a 1 in 10 chance.

    If you have a time machine and decide this is the best use of it to go back and retry this history, yes its 1 in 200.
     
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    If you know the odds already, why use Roy? He’s not going to make any difference. The odds are the odds.
     
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    Why not use him?

    I'd say its fun to use him, so lets go for it.
     
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    It's a way to increase thread length on S2. Same as the on again off again Melo to Portland saga.
     
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    Ha Ha Ha. You beat me to it.
     
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    Not exactly the math he was looking for lol. The math would be of a guy who garnered the #1 pick two times in a row when being the featured "spokesperson" at the draft. Different numbers.

    #imbeingpedanticaf
     
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    Nope. These are what are called in Statistics "independent events" - Independent Events are not affected by previous events. The classic example is a coin toss, A coin does not "know" it came up heads before and thus each toss of a coin is a perfect isolated thing.

    The same happens for NBA lottery events and the spokesperson at the draft. The 10.5% is still the correct answer mathematically. There is no "history" that is related to the spokesperson, thus no change on the odds.

    In other words, the odds of getting the #1 (or any other) pick is the same no matter what spokesperson is and what how many times he/she attended before and what the results were in previous events.

    Likewise, the odds that a certain pick happens for a specific spokesperson does not change if that spokesperson was at a previous event and whatever happened at this event.
     
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    BRoy was #7, we can fall to number 7, don’t like it.
     
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    I wonder if they have offered him a position coaching the G league team?
     
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    I will say that Nick Gilbert RIP got it done for the Cavs. So not necessarily astronomical.
     
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    If Brandon Roy and Paul Allen patched things up, good. But the statement that Allen wanted nothing to do with anyone who hurt or betrayed him, hopefully Roy didn't do that, but I would agree. I wouldn't want anything more to do with someone who hurt or betrayed me.
     
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    So Rod Strickland is your choice?
     
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