Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Ahhh, OK...the reason I asked is because I was wondering about the feasibility of using drones.
     
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  2. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    They are using drones with the strikes into Crimea and also some into border areas of russia. Problem with drones is they are quite slow and so easy to shoot down. Ukraine regularly shoots down all the Iranian Shahed drones that russia sends over Ukrainian cities regularly.
     
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    This feud with PMC Wagner head Prigozhin is becoming a big deal. Imagine if Douglas McArthur had sponsored a poll showing him also even with Truman? Would have been fired the same day. But of course in russia, it's different. Just yesterday Prigozhin basically called Putin a bumbling grandpa, now this. If Putin could get to Prigozhin he definitely would have him killed. Same for Prigozhin. Prigozhin is actually more hawkish than Putin; I think he would call for all out mobilization and shifting all factories to military production. Putin reluctant to do that because he would lose support from oligarchs and risk a popular uprising.
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    Very interesting. Prigozhin marks his open opposition to Putin. This looks like a life-and-death struggle, as both Putin and Prigozhin usually kill their enemies. The destabilization of Russia looks increasingly likely, or has it already happened with the many partisan attacks?


     
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    In Trump's Townhall, which I did not watch, Trump said he'd meet with Zelensky and Putin and solve the war "in one day, 24 hours", wouldn't say if he believed Putin was a war criminal, and wouldn't even say if he wanted Ukraine or Russia to win the war... amazing. Congrats Republicans, this is probably going to be your candidate again, unless you do something about it.
     
  5. UKRAINEFAN

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    His idea is probably to tell Ukraine he will cut off all military aid unless they cede all land to russia that they currently hold. He still doesn't understand Ukraine. They would tell him to fuck off and keep on fighting with what they have.
     
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    This is really big news. for me, more important than F-16s. Ukraine can now strike russian supply and ammo dumps and supply routes that were just out of range previously. Thank you so much Great Britain! They are delivering long range rockets to Ukraine!
    "According to MBDA Missile Systems, the European company which manufactures the missile, the Storm Shadow is a “deep strike weapon” capable of “being operated day and night in all weathers,” that features an advanced navigation system to ensure accuracy."
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/poli...s delivered,senior Western officials told CNN.
     
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    Thank you so much Great Britain for having the courage to do this!
     
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    BTW, Ukraine has agreed not to use these against russian territory, only against parts of Ukraine currently occupied by russia.
     
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    Great! Ship all the fascists, anti semites, homophobes and assorted bigots to Russia. Would greatly improve this country. They can elect Trump dictator for life and ban drag shows even though they won't have any drag performers.
     
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    I love this stuff. Ukrainians hack into video systems in stores all over russia; put on air raid sirens, address by Zelensky and a Ukrainian patriotic song!
     
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    Either russian bloggers have gone into full panic over something or else some real shit is starting to happen. Reports that Ukraine has started small counteroffensives to outflank and surround russian troops in Bakhmut and also rumors that Ukraine may have started to cross the river in southern Ukraine. russians have been looting and evacuating civilian government personnel and other citzens from the southern regions for several days now. There are even reports of evacuation from Mariupol which is far behind the front line. Even Prigozhin, the PMC Wagner chief is claiming Ukraine looking to take Bakhmut and then continue into russian provinces. (This last won't happen but hopefully russians paranoid enough to build up defenses on the borders.)
     
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  13. yankeesince59

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    I know it may just be a pipe dream, but if I were Z, my terms for Russia's "surrender/withdrawal" would be not only remove Putin from power and give back all the territory Russia has taken, including Crimea...but Russia would have to foot the bill for rebuilding Ukraine to where it was before the invasion.

    ...yeah, I know, I know, and like I said, I realize that it's a pipe dream.
     
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    That would be nice if it were true, it’s not though. Shit is probably going to get really bad over there really soon, like within days or weeks. Wars in the northern parts of the world are fought at the behest of Mother Nature, and spring thaw and drying might see this ridiculous war increase in magnitude if some type of deal isn’t brokered. There’s a strong chance the winter was being waited out by both sides.
     
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    There is no deal to make. Russia can just leave.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I just wonder whether this Prigozhin/Putin fight isn't entirely fake.

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    Hmm... You mean like Putin is playing along, or it's just propaganda from Russia's enemies?
     
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    Oh ok. Carry on.
     
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    I mean, I guess Ukraine can agree not to attack mainland Russia... But otherwise Russia can just GTFO.

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    I mean maybe it's a trap, like "oh, please whatever you do, don't attack us in Bakmut, we are very very weak there, we are so unprepared, if you attacked us we would not fight at all, we have no ammunition and all our soldiers are 90 year old grandmas in wheelchairs"

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