Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

Ayton
Wemby
Grant
Sharpe
Dame

Not an Ayton fan, but every lineup looks great if we win the Wemby lotto.

 

The best defender. You can’t have 5 guys who all want the ball

 

Hey I prioritize D from Bigs & Ayton is the best defender of those 4 with versatility on switches as probably his best trait. But don't kid yourself, he wants the ball on the other end too and he's let that be known. Assuming his head isn't the mess that posters are alluding to, he'd be a clear upgrade. I just happen to think with his ability to spread the court, KAT would be an even bigger one... dude is very skilled offensive player with career 40% shootiing from 3pt range and isn't terrible on D.

I'd put the chances either is wearing a Blazer uni next season near zero tho... not realistic trade options.

STOMP

 

twin towers doesn't work anymore. In fact, it almost never did. If Wemby is stuck at PF guarding guys like Lebron, Kawhi, Durant, Harrison Barnes, Wiggins, Zion/Ingram, Tatum, Jimmy Butler....those are today's NBA PF's....well, if that's who Wemby has to guard 90% of the time he's going to have a real rough time.

I can't believe that anybody would think paying Ayton 34M/year is a good idea. C's are the least valuable position these days, unless of course it's an MVP level player. That sure the hell isn't Ayton

 

Ayton seems to suffer from effort, focus and consistency, but when he's on, he's a beast. Don't we already have that issue at C?! Why would we use up a chunk of our assets to have that same problem, just more expensive?

 

Well, Nurk is also extremely injury prone. How is Aytons health?

 

https://hoopshype.com/storyline/deandre-ayton-injury/

Looks like just some minor shit here and there, nothing major. Looks like he had a lingering issue with his left ankle in 2020 but that's the only season that he missed significant PT. He's been pretty durable. His field goal percentage is what you'd expect from a dominant big man. He is a helluva lot more athletic and can do the things that I don't think Nurk can. The kid disappears from time to time but he's far more consistent than Nurk too.

I get the people that don't like that much money going to a big but I only want that if he's playing next to Wemby and Wemby isn't going to be a traditional big for the foreseeable future... I think he will be guarding on the perimeter and weak side. We will want to acquire an athletic C to play next to him or a PF that can really bang.

 

I really don't care what they've done over their careers. Here's the most recent season:

In my eyes, that's not a player that's worth double Nurkic particularly given he plays the least valuable position in the league at the moment, and he really doesn't solve our biggest issues. In fact, one of our biggest issues (rebounding) gets worse with him.

So, no, not interested in Ayton.

Sure, he's better than Nurkic, but like I said... not a ceiling raiser in my eyes. And if we are going to give up our limited assets for a player, it better be a ceiling raiser, and the fact of the matter is there are 2 centers who do that. Embiid and Jokic.

 

But Damian will keep him focused, committed, and working hard. Suddenly, he'll become an MVP-level player!

 

Random thought. No one ever mentions DPOY JJJ.

 

For good reason. He is locked up for 3 more years on a very team-friendly contract. Memphis would be insane to trade him.

 

Well its decided then..........We get Jokic.....they regret sending us Nurkic and really want him back.

 

Could the Worriers have some interest in Nurkic?

 

why? Looney is better at half the cost

 

We are all worriers when it comes to Nurk and his health.

 

no to Ayton and no to Nurkic.

 

How?

 

'PF' seems to be a dying position. There isn't much 'power' to it anymore and the ones that are more like that are getting older (LeBron, Butler) or are so often hurt. (Zion). Since almost everyone struggles with Kawhi, (when he plays) Durant, Wiggins, Ingram, Tatum, etc, I'll take the mobile freak with the 7'8" wingspan and take my chances. He should be able to play off of them a bit and has enough quickness/size to be able to recover as well as most.

 

I just don't buy it. They tried to jamb Porzingis into that template; it didn't work. Zach Collins was another that didn't fit as a PF/4. Both are C's now after the failed PF experiments. Myles Turner is another player that was theorized as a PF but was really a C.

I have watched video of Wemby. The mobility I've noticed has been on offense and it's more straight-line than zig-zag. He's got great handles and decent footwork for a guy his size & age, and the threat to pull up from anywhere and shoot over defenders is pretty awesome.

but I have not seen the lateral mobility on defense at all. When he has been on a perimeter player, he's been beat off the dribble quite a bit. And he's been slow to close out on shooters. He's much better in or near the paint where that 7'8 length you pointed at can be used for rim protection, help defense, and defensive rebounding. Him being 20 feet away from the basket on defense is not playing to his strengths. And this has come against Euro-league front courts. Against the constant stream of NBA all-star level talent at 'the-4-position' I think he'll spend way to much time lost and in foul trouble

 

Didn't say he would be good. Said he should be able to recover as well as most against Durant....etc. Since I don't see anyone really slowing them down, so I'll take Wemby and live with the rest. Also, I don't see Porzingis, Collins and Wemby in the same conversation too often, but maybe you are finding different comparisons than I am.