We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    I believe they changed that rule awhile ago so you can't really do extend and trades.

    Sure Blazers can get assurance like was rumored with Grant. But there's nothing holding Siakam/Brown to it, and even if they mean it today there's a risk in a year their feelings change. Not a huge risk when we give up a mediocre pick for Grant, but when it's the #3 pick that's a bigger concern.
     
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    DDolla Well-Known Member

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    I like the Blazers to draft the next KD in Brandon Miller
     
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  3. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

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    This is about LAST YEARS draft.
     
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  4. Freshtown

    Freshtown Well-Known Member

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    lets hope Joe doesn’t listen to Dame on anything.

    from wanting to keep stotts, to signing Blevins, to keeping cj, to backing billups…dame should not be consulted on personnel.
     
  5. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    I think there is a very real possibility that we see the same thing from Joe this time around as we have during his first two trade deadlines and last off season. I think he might not find any trades to his liking but I think this time what the result will be is a big trade in July with Dame on his way elsewhere. That trade might even be agreed to on draft night.

    I could definitely see us agreeing to send Dame and Nurk to the Nets for Simmons, Claxton, 3M in salary filler and the rights to picks 21, 22 (that the Nets would draft for us) and maybe future FRPs from the Suns. If #3 ends up being Scoot, I could see us shipping Ant somewhere too. Scoot, Shaedon, Claxton, picks 21, 22, 23 and trying to get Simmons right for a couple of seasons sounds like a pretty solid start to a youth rebuild. As far as Dame is concerned... I think that a rotation of Dame, Bridges, Finney-Smith, Cam Johnson, Nurk, Dinwiddie, O'Neal, Harris and a backup big that they sign with the TPMLE might be the best rotation he's had around him... it's definitely a bunch of really good defenders who can put the ball in the whole wen open and some instant offense off of the bench.

    I still want to see Dame stay and I know all of us are fixated on the same few guys that we think could possibly get this team into a more competitive spot with Dame leading it but I also know that none of us are on the phones with front offices around the league, so none of us actually knows who is and isn't available or what is being asked for, for any specific player. I think we'll know a lot more in a month and a couple of days. Just like always a lot of wait and see for us fans.
     
  6. inconceivable

    inconceivable Well-Known Member

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    This tweet is MISLEADING

    The pick is about last year's #7

    Too bad for Totonto, Sharpe will be leaps and bounds better than OG when it's all said and done
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    I think Dame was down with trading the seventh pick for OG... I don't think OG has helped his stock in the last season and in this draft especially the third pick is a helluva lot more valuable than the seventh pick was in the last draft and I'm sure today that Dame isn't asking that Shaedon be traded for OG. Just like when Dame was mad at this time last year, he should be consulted but Joe should only use it as consultation not marching orders.
     
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  8. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Simmons career is pretty much done. He really has shown no desire to be an NBA player. It's money to him. Big NO DOG on anything bringing him to Portland.
     
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    Combine measurements are already out. Ausar has longer hands. He has a taller standing reach (8’8 vs 8’7.5), but oddly not a longer wingspan (both are 7’0). Both are 6’5.75 barefoot, so a solid 6’7 in shoes. Both weigh in the mid 210lb so they aren’t rail thin like Ant was at their age. I don’t see any official measurement for vertical, but I see reports that Amen’s is 44”—Ausar has an obvious notch below Amen in athleticism, but it will probably end up well over 40”. They are both essentially Spurs Kawhi-size.

    I like Ausar a lot too. I really hope Ausar wows Schmitz enough to be convinced he’s the guy. Keying in on Ausar invites a tradedown like an ORL deal to get more assets like possibly a second lotto pick. I’m going to believe it’s a wash defensively until more tape says otherwise. To me, Ausar looks like a really good off-ball defender, but Amen might be better as a point of attack defender. I don’t see why Ausar couldn’t become a point of attack defender though. Ausar’s jumpshot is alot more NBA ready than Amen’s too, and is more of an off ball player. If Ausar could do what Sharpe did early last season, he’ll be guaranteed 10-15mpg.

    I don’t know if Ausar could become a guy that will become your PG of the future though. With Amen, you have another guy that can realistically facilitate the offense, Skylar Mays as a safety valve. When Sharpe subs in for Ant, Sharpe will have the majority on the best opposing guard. Then you could sub in Ant for Dame and play Amen at SF. Ant will be masked on defense with Sharpe and Amen on the floor, with Thybulle as a sub in if either on gets in foul trouble, and at the same time, Amen takes less pressure on Ant as the primary ball handler and will grow as a primary decision maker. Amen would thrive growing in a Ben Simmons role where you put four shooters around him, one of them being Sharpe. That way, Dame will be able to operate more PnR offense, and Ant/Amen can play a more of a San Antonio kind of offense.

    The future of the NBA looks to be having less of a traditional PG and more guys who can kind of do everything. Amen could be fed 1-2 PnRs a game so he can grow that aspect of his game. Sharpe has shown he can at least be an adequate passer soon. Watford can also push the ball and make decisions with the ball, he’ll be here a few more years. Once Dame’s gone, I don’t think we can ever go ball to being this one player centric again.
     
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  10. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I still think he is good (an excellent defender with good handles/passing) he just isn't the star most people thought he would be out of college
    He is currently overpaid
     
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    Dame wants the Blazers to trade #3 for OG?
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Good. Toronto wants to play hardball? Joe needs to play hardball. Let's see whose balls are harder. Joe is the one holding the #3 pick.

    There are other teams that will value that pick. It's good that stories like this come out. Let's other teams know we aren't patsies and they need to come with a real offer.
     
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  13. inconceivable

    inconceivable Well-Known Member

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    We traded CJ to a team he's happy with.

    Any Dame trade gotta be to a team that even after the trade is still a contender while also giving us fair value in return, otherwise what's the point of trading him?

    Name the teams. Go!

    Ayton and Payne don't cut it
    Simmons and Claxton don't cut it
    Maxey and Harris don't cut it
    Lowry and Herro don't cut it
    Brown and Smart don't cut it
    Murray and MPJ don't cut it
    Randle and Quickley don't cut it
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    We would have regretted trading Shae for OG. Dodged that bullet.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Until they are.
     
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    inconceivable Well-Known Member

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    No. Misleading. Clickbait. It's about last year's pick. Turned out Shaedon. No way we trade Sharpe for OG or even Siakam now (that's just me)
     
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    I feel pretty good about a chance that a rookie really wows Dame. I don’t think it’s Scoot. But if a forward like Miller or one of the Thompson twins, or maybe even Hendricks gets here and shows signs early, he’ll keep sticking it out.

    I’ve seen all the social media posts Dame’s posted the last 2-3 years, he’s ended up still with Portland. So I’ll believe it when I see it, but we need to still build for the future but keep in mind to find pieces that will still fit around Dame until he retires or wants to be gone.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Dame told you this huh.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    He's salary filler the Blazers would get great picks for taking on his last two years. If we're trading away Dame the salary filler doesn't matter as a player. Might even be possible he is bought out after a year.
     
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