We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

I agree with Joe. What was the difference between what Shaedon showed at the end of last season and what Ant showed the season before. Both guys have shown they can look really good as number one options while losing. Ant showed it at PG and got the starting SG nod. Shae actually showed it at the position that we're talking about him starting at.

 

This is a supposedly one of the deepest Drafts in a long time. If this was next year's Draft, I'd say go with #3. But I'm not sure there is that great of a difference between 3 and 6 if it is Miller. If it is Scoot, I think he has a higher ceiling, but again, when is the last time a 6'2" ball dominant, scoring PG led their team to a championship? It just doesn't happen. So Scoot may be a great player like Dame, but not produce much in terms of team results. If I could get an Ausar Thompson who reminds me of a young Scottie Pippen, or a Taylor Hendricks who is a very good shooter with great length, AND another asset that has the makings of a solid piece, I'm going to trust that Schmitz will get us the right player and we have 2 pieces instead of 1.

As posted, I think Scoot could be that media superstar player. Lots of highlights, tons of stats, but historically, not the type of player that leads a team to rings. Miller I think has a lower ceiling, but could actually be exactly the type of player that contributes to a title team.....wing shooter who can defend. Neither IMO, could be the best player on a title winning team. Which is why I'm open to getting multiple somewhat similar pieces instead of just one.

 

Zion for Scoot?

 

I don't think it's fair to call him that.

The guy plays remarkably well off the ball.

Here are some key stats:

Scoot
2FGM %AST - 35.6%
2FGM %UAST - 64.4%
3FGM %AST - 42.9%
3FGM %UAST - 57.1
FGM %AST - 36.5%
FGM %UAST - 63.5%

Dame
2FGM %AST - 15.7%
2FGM %UAST - 84.3%
3FGM %AST - 51.6%
3FGM %UAST - 48.4%
FGM %AST - 31.5%
FGM %UAST - 68.5%

In terms of 2 pointers vs 3 pointers

Scoot
%FGA 2pt - 81%
%FGA 3pg - 19%
%PTS 2PT - 64.3%
%PTS 2PT MR - 19.7% (mid range points)
%PTS 3PT - 13.4%
%PTS FBPS - 14.3% (fast break points)

Dame
%FGA 2pt - 45.3%
%FGA 3pg - 54.7%
%PTS 2PT - 33.4%
%PTS 2PT MR - 6% (mid range points)
%PTS 3PT - 39.2%
%PTS FBPS - 8.6% (fast break points)

So 81% of Scoots shots are from 2 pt range, and he is assisted on 35.6% of those shots.
Dame only attempts 45.3% of his shots from 2 pt range and is assisted on 15.7% of those shots.

Dame, to me, is the very definition of a ball dominant guard. I don't think Scoot is, and I think he would play VERY well with Sharpe.

 

I would trade 3 for Ingram. Not for Zion.

 

Not me, I think after Wemby, then Scoot, its wide open for many spots after that, and I include Brando Miller in that large 3rd tier, he does not impress me, so 6 and 11 and an Orlando player might work for me

 

- I'm leaning towards not trading for Siakam at all because I am not willing to give him an extension for probably $40m/year. Grant is also not going to come off the bench. You talk about Grant coming off the bench, and he'll dip as you blink.
- If Masai isn't taking Ant and #3, he's not going to take #6 and #11.

I'm going to assume the Simons for Wagner swap isn't on the table because they're not going to trade for Ant and then also add Scoot. If we get #6 and #11 and WCJ for Nas, I would rather draft two guys than try to find immediate impacts. Draft Ausar at #6 and Lively at #11, then try getting someone like DFS from BRK for Nurk and #23.

Dame/Ant/Mays
Ant/Sharpe/Thybulle/Mays
DFS/Ausar/Thybulle
Grant/Watford/Walker
WCJ/Reid/Lively

I don't think this team is any worse than the two teams with those starters that you've highlighted. There is no one on that bench that I can bet on to grow with this franchise and become a fixture here.

 

So tempting though. Like I said before "Super High Risk and Super High Reward" for Zion.
He still only makes 13 million at the moment, so the matching salary is almost nothing.
If he can come here in shape, (I know that is a big if) then we are instant contenders. He has that ability.
Color me crazy, but I would risk it.

 

Have you seen the news about him this week?

 

just Say no to Zion...he's the Pels dead-weight-anchor...don't solve their problem with a 3rd pick

 

I briefly saw what the gold digger tweeted out. But I missed the rest. What happened?

 

I know this is crazy, but I would rather take Ben Simmons over Zion. They're both batshit crazy but at least Simmons was consistently good for a period of time. That's only if I had to take one or the other.

 

I saw on Reddit that he had a girlfriend, got a side piece and then knocked up the side piece. The side piece didn't know that she was a side piece. Everything is blowing up.

 

So in other words, nothing unusual for the NBA?

 

Appreciate the breakdown. Hadn't dug that deeply into his stats and only watched highlights. If he could be an explosive player with the ball who could play off it at times, that would add a dimension and makes the team better......and no matter whom we have/get/draft/trade for, that is the goal. No player is bigger than the team. Sadly, it feels a bit that way right now.

 

Has potentially two baby mama dramas and looks as out of shape as ever. I don't want him. Seems as if he has too many distractions or NO wouldn't be trading him. It should give us pause that this supposedly otherworldly talent is on the market.

 

Nothing new here but again...

 

I get it. It would be a HUGE gamble. But now would be the time to strike while his salary is low for trade purposes. Nike has a lot invested in him, maybe by being in their back yard they can better influence his diet, while Dame can influence his work ethic. I know I add 5 pounds every time I go to New Orleans for a 3-day conference. That has to be the worst possible city for him to live in.
And he needs to leave one of his girlfriends behind

 

4 yrs in the league and a max contract ... And still not professional enough to maintain his conditioning? Too many red flags for me