We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. Sheldon Shape

    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    Because Scoot can lead a franchise and he has higher upside.
     
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    They typically aren’t, but I view this as:

    If it takes Brandon Ingram or Zion to get to 2/3, in order for us to beat that price, we aren’t interested.
     
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    Graduate32 Well-Known Member

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    Agree or disagree with Mike, you have to appreciate that he is able to keep a level head throughout. He can express a viewpoint and then also explore other perspectives rationally. It's a breath of fresh air compared to much of the Blazer fan and media related content out there.
     
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    Amen has higher upside than Scoot and can lead a franchise, so why not a boner for him too?

    Not to mention he’s good defensively and has super size and athleticism
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If you listen to the podcast, he says that Scoot is in a tier above anyone else (except Wemby). He says that Scoot would be the #1 pick in a lot of past drafts. That potential to be a superstar is worth a lot.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Because Josh Lloyd does not agree with you.
     
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    Agree with me?

    I am pretty sure it’s damn-near consensus that Amen Thompson has the second highest ceiling of anyone in this draft.

    He’s also probably most likely to bust.
     
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    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    I like him too but the fact that his shot is broken and he performed in a questionable league begs the question.

    I'm not sure you can skip on Scoot or Miller who have less question marks.
     
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    Amen may be a good distributor & defender but I have a hard time with a guy that is supposed to have such a high ceiling, and hasn't learned to shoot threes, in todays game.
    Most round ball junkies when young work on that three constantly and it usually pays off.
    I used to play city league and there were dudes that could defend, board and play with aggression but they never worked on improving a shot. If a guy has talent when young the only way he doesn't develop a decent shot is for a lack of putting in the work and development.
     
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    but, from what I can tell, the choir of voices saying Scoot is overrated it getting louder

    of course, everybody lies. Except me. You can trust me because I never lie and I'm always right
     
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    Because people are probably trying to cause a slide.

    Josh Lloyd and Krysten Peek both spoke very highly of him, and they are people that I trust.
     
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    He puts Amen above Miller, but he has Scoot in a tier high above Amen.
     
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    There's another component in these decisions that really starts to ratchet up as we get closer and closer to the draft... job security.

    Regardless of what Amen, Miler, Scoot, Ausar, etc. may be, if the league consensus is that one should be preferred over the other, and all other variables are roughly even, job security is going to come into play. At a pick like 3, you can't take a swing on a non-consensus guy and miss or you're getting fired VERY quickly. Amen's bust potential alone probably puts him a tier below Scoot. Guys getting drafted lower outperform higher picks all the time, that's the way the game works, but reaching on guy and having him bust is a deathknell in pro sports. Drafting "the right guy" and having it not pan out at least has the security of consensus of the crowd for your defense.

    At the end of the day, these are fallible human beings making real decisions and susceptible to all sorts of biases and mindgames -- not names on a page.
     
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    There were two shortened seasons in there though.
     
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    Interesting listen.

    They're both absolutely convinced that the #3 pick is on the move.
     
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    Most talking heads seem to be...
     
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    Yes.... but it's funny because both of them seem to think that it's a bad idea.
     
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    I'll state I am all out on Zion. To me, he is, in large part, Oden 2.0. Great when he can play but generally can't. Don't want a highly paid bench warmer.
     
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    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    Not all #3 picks are equal. If they don't rate Scoot or Miller as highly as a prime Bridges, then it makes sense.

    I think they should keep the pick and make moves with other pieces.
     
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    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    We shouldn't even be discussing it. He's never going to be healthy.
     
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