Exclusive 2023 NBA Draft

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by PDXFonz, Jun 22, 2023.

  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,702
    Likes Received:
    36,257
    Trophy Points:
    113
    get a grip....What haul of picks? Miami doesn't have any picks till 2028. Brooklyn has 1 pick before 2027. Blazers might get some picks but they will be 4-7 years out. OKC and Utah won't be trading picks for Dame. There will not be any quick turnaround for Portland after trading Dame
     
    UKRAINEFAN, Eastoff, BBert and 2 others like this.
  2. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2014
    Messages:
    7,773
    Likes Received:
    11,502
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saying this for years
    Such a weird draft for the Blazers. If it was done in a vacuum, assuming none of the three are traded, you'd have to be thrilled with what the Blazers got. All three were value at where they were picked. One guy has superstar potential in a league where you need that to has a chance to win it all. One can really shoot it. Two have outstanding positional size. All three look like good to plus defender upside.

    However, with the composition of the roster and all the Dame distractions, it also couldn't have turned out worse in some ways. Rupert's several years away. Our superstar draft pick plays the same position as our superstar veteran. Murray is good and has a decent chance to get in the rotation quickly, but he's also at a position where there's a log jam -- he's more a 3 than a 4, just like Grant and Reddish, and then you have Sharpe and Thybulle also getting minutes there.

    EDIT: And I don't think the deals were there to be made that would have gotten us anything near the value for the third pick. You don't give up a potential superstar talent for just a good or very good vet, especially if you're being asked to throw in extras.

    There still are ways to make this work and placate Dame. Maybe Murray and Rupert are moved. Ant almost has to be moved to balance the roster now, because now he's at a spot where he's got two guys with higher upside and he still can bring solid return in a trade. Still looking for Nurk to be moved. There are enough guys on the roster than play 2 and 3 now that several of them could be filler in trades. We have the MLE but I think now more than ever we have to re-sign Grant, and that's going to be an overpay.

    There's still time to salvage it, but I think after tonight the window we have to slide it through just got trickier, unless the Blazers just say the heck with it we're rebuilding around all the young guys, and I don't think that's the way to go, either ... that works better if you have a couple of good vets to show guys like Scoot the intricacies. Not sure going all young gets this organization anywhere in the long run.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2023
    UKRAINEFAN and RR7 like this.
  3. LayneStaley

    LayneStaley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2018
    Messages:
    6,040
    Likes Received:
    6,490
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Badass
    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
    That’s why Dame to Bos makes sense. Dame/Tatum/Porzingis is much better for them and Scoot/Sharpe/Brown fits the timeline for us. Too bad dame supposedly hates Bos
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,748
    Likes Received:
    55,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Gonna really love to see this SL team.

    Scoot
    Murray
    Rupert

    I really don't think Shaedon will play, but if he does..... oh boy.
     
  5. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,627
    Likes Received:
    16,770
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Brooklyn has 7 tradeable first round picks (4 from the Suns, 1 from the Sixers, 1 from the Mavs and 1 of their own).
     
    maxiep likes this.
  6. bemac

    bemac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2008
    Messages:
    639
    Likes Received:
    857
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Occupation:
    Photographer
    Location:
    Portland Oregon
    What? There were no moves, and we're not in a win now position. This was perfect...A fun team to watch while they continue to build. This solved everything. Could not be more excited for the future. NBA small market team building is all about luck, timing, and the draft. They had the timing with Oden, Aldridge and Roy but not the luck. The timing and poor decisions made the Dame era fail. We are on track for both luck and timing.
     
    Mote and maxiep like this.
  7. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2014
    Messages:
    7,773
    Likes Received:
    11,502
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Saying this for years
    Badji.
     
    UKRAINEFAN and BBert like this.
  8. inconceivable

    inconceivable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2010
    Messages:
    2,911
    Likes Received:
    3,122
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Back to Back SL champs!!
     
    Duckhook and Natebishop3 like this.
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,748
    Likes Received:
    55,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    They're getting set up for the press conference.
     
  10. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,627
    Likes Received:
    16,770
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Where can I watch it?
     
    maxiep likes this.
  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    link?
     
    maxiep likes this.
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,748
    Likes Received:
    55,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I'm listening to Rip City Radio. They said they're setting up.
     
    blazerkor likes this.
  13. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,702
    Likes Received:
    36,257
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I know what they have, but other than the 2025 Phoenix pick, the rest are 4-7 years out. And in case you didn't notice, I was responding to somebody saying the Blazers could make a quick turnaround from the "haul of picks" for Dame. How the fuck does Portland make a quick turnaround on some picks in 2027-2029 when the players taken then will likely not be ready to compete at a high level till 3-5 years into their career? That would be somewhere in 2030-2033. Is that a quick turnaround? Sharpe might have already left in free agency

    by the way, Philly's pick is not a guaranteed 1st
     
    UKRAINEFAN and blazerkor like this.
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,748
    Likes Received:
    55,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    There just isn't a sweetheart team out there to trade him to.
     
  15. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,627
    Likes Received:
    16,770
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah if we trade Dame we should be looking at some years where we need to be excited about player development. 3-4 year turnaround to get back to the playoffs optimistically.
     
  16. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    26,461
    Likes Received:
    20,058
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Poster Boy
    Location:
    Blazerlandia
    Good call.

    :cheers:
     
    PCmor7 likes this.
  17. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    22,671
    Likes Received:
    15,108
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am hoping that Badji is the reason we did not roll the dice on a young center prospect at 23.
    Summer league should give a glimpse of that
     
    PCmor7 and BBert like this.
  18. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,702
    Likes Received:
    36,257
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think 3-4 years is very optimistic. 6-8 seems more realistic
     
    UKRAINEFAN likes this.
  19. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    found this

     
    blazerkor and Natebishop3 like this.
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,748
    Likes Received:
    55,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    God I bet Joe is dreading this PC.
     

Share This Page