Exclusive Would you have included Sharpe to get something done?

c'mon man...that's complete BS. Cronin got Hart, a 1st round pick, and the TPE for Grant from the CJ trade. That's Portland coming out on top of a deal, not the bottom, because CJ didn't have much value then, or much value now. The Pelicans are so happy with CJ that after a year of seeing him as the starting PG they were desperate to trade for a rookie PG

 

I agree with that except for the REALLY bad label. RoCo had almost no value....like in the 2nd round pick level, yop-40 protected. That leaves Powell and I have never seen any evidence there were good deals out there for him, not on that 90M contract. Ballmer may have been the only owner willing to pay that much for a backup, and after the inclusion of the 2nd apron in the new CBA I think 18M/year for a bad-defense-backup SG will be an obsolete role

 

ROCO was a free agent so we could have just.... let him expire.

I will never be convinced that trading Norm was a good move. His deal was not a bad deal. He's a very productive player. We could have waited until the offseason. Or kept him and had his contract to help make deals now. I will never accept that trading him A WEEK before the deadline was a solid move. And we got jack shit for him. Stupid stupid stupid. And I don't think it was Cronin's idea.

 

If that is the case he also cut CJ's 36 million contract. (33 and 30 million the 2 years after). That does affect future moves.

 

but that's the nature of trades isn't it?. You assign value based upon what you get in the trade. If a team makes a solid trade for an all-star who has missed about 10 games in 7 years and two weeks later he blows out his Achilles and is never the same, that doesn't mean the value of the trade changes. It just means that as time passes circumstances can change

Portland rolled the dice and landed Hart and Grant, knowing both were expiring contracts in 2023. If you go to BBREF and call up the list of all NBA contracts, after you get past the all-star level players and rookie extensions, you'd see that the average length of contract are less than 2 seasons. it's the nature of the game because not every GM is as big an idiot as Olshey giving out 4 and 5 year deals to role-players and scrubs

When Portland traded for Hart they couldn't really know how his wife was going to react to living in Portland. And they traded for Grant with the idea of pairing him with Dame. If Dame was happy, grant would almost certainly re-sign. But there's mystery in the air that couldn't be smelled 12 months ago

 

How bad is a trade that allows you to offload an albatross $90M contract and a player on an expiring contract that you don’t plan to re-sign? Then factor in that said players came off the bench for a team that got bounced in the first round.

 

I just flatly disagree with this statement. Norm is a good player. That's a smaller contract than Simons or Tyler Herro.

 

how the fuck is it getting worse?

would you rather have CJ than Sharpe and Scoot?

 

Norm’s a good player, but he’s a tweener. That’s why he comes off the bench. How many bench players in the NBA are there with a 5 year $90M contract?

 

Sharpe can be an exceptional player and a backcourt with him and Scoot if Dame does go, is quite tasty to think about. Young yes but if they work their talents well together, can really be one of the best backcourts in the league.

 

So is Simons.

So is Herro.

Powell is way more efficient than either of those players.



Here is Powell's contract.



Here is Herro



Here is Simons.



Minutes per game
Norm - 26
Simons - 35
Herro - 35

 

Simons and Herro are young players that some believe have quite a bit of upside. Norm is what Norm is: an established role player. Obviously, on some poorer teams he can start, but on any competitive team he’s a quality bench player.

 

Yeah but he’s paid like it. Herro is grossly overpaid for what he is.

 

I don't think most teams would have a problem with Norm's average annual salary on the contract Olshey gave him. It was the five year commitment for a guy that's not a star.

 

The mistake was trading for RoCo and Powell. The trades for them were so bad, we had to take another negative trade just to get rid of them.

It's really tough to read whether a player will quit on you before you make a trade. RoCo just stopped trying.