Trade Idea Dame Trade Ideas

That can't be it. The Blazers didn't draft any of those guys.

 

Miami doesn't have the players or picks to make a deal work... not that they'd be willing to give up. Bam would be great but that's not what they're trying to do. Their fans that think they're getting Dame are crazy when Dame named Brooklyn in the same interview that he named Miami and Brookly actually has assets we would want.

Also just to play your game why isn't Jovic in your proposal or the rights to Jaquez or any of there other two tradeable future first round picks. If you really are trying to come up with viable trade scenarios try harder.

 

Roy/LMA/Oden?

 

Well yes Bam would be the best to be in the deal, but Heat are trying to have a big trio again if you will so as you say they really probably do not want to part with him unless its something massive, which we cannot do, not Dame on his own at least.

Struggling to really see the best scenarios with Miami, probably best if we look elsewhere if dealing Dame is what is the plan.

Jovic is a decent project though yes.

In the grand scheme of things, not a ton of teams that are really viable trade partners in regards to Dame's value imo; narrows our choices down quite a bit.

 

I have a hunch that Dame won't suit up for us again unless Joe is gone. Again how do you think Dame feels when he hears Joe today saying that they had so many offers for pick 23? I don't think it's the behavior of someone as involved as Dame has been to only communicate with his team through his agent (vacation or not) right after a draft that went this way if he's planning on sticking around.

I'm just going to believe the last things I heard from Dame's mouth, he wants to be here but he's not down with a youth movement, if the team decides to go that way that's not his way.

 

Maybe that's what he meant, but those teams never got out of the first round, right? Is that contending?

 

I don't think Joe will be gone until Jody is gone.

And I think Joe is making moves that he can explain in job interviews when his time here is done.

 

Then I think he has to trade Dame. I don't think the two timeline thing is easy to explain in job interviews but making the tough but prudent decision to do a youth rebuild and get Dame to a good team while getting fair compensation for him that contributes to the youth rebuild would be very easy to explain.

 

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And that's all totally fine from both sides, sure seems like Por is choosing to rebuild and it's time to move Dame. My take is the offers for 3 were shitty and if that's the case why bother trading the 23? It's meaningless to get a middling asset at best vs what the 3 "could" bring, so may as well draft. I think everyone is now in the process of digesting all this and POR commits to full rebuild and Dame moves on and hopefully gets a chance to compete for the championship.

 

IMO the "two timeline" thing was doomed, not gonna work given what we have to work with. Fukkin commit to a rebuild and move Dame to a contender and get a solid haul back is so obviously the correct path forward at this time. Dame THANK YOU for the memories and hope you can win a title wherever you end up - Nets is my guess

 

That's my guess too and not at mid season. I bet it happens really soon while we can get the rights to their first rounders from the draft that just happened and so everyone can settle in with their teams during the summer instead of being behind the curve in adapting to each other.

 

very unlikely

SGA was in his 5th season this year, and his 4th in OKC. He was named to the 1st team all-NBA. He averaged 31-5-6. And he's on a team with a balanced roster and quite a bit of fine young talent. And it was the 4th straight lottery for OKC

I like Sharpe and believe he'll be a good player...maybe great. But the chances he'll be as good as SGA in the 2025-26 season is about 3 zip-codes beyond realistic

rebuilds take time, and they take quite a bit of luck to be successful. And when a team starts it's rebuild by trading away a franchise player, it seems the rebuild takes even longer

it's one thing to be in favor of a rebuild. It's another to try and sell the virtues of a rebuild by claiming it will be fast. It won't be

 

Miami does not have a 1st round pick to trade till 2028. I don't know how many times that has to be pointed out

 

I blame the shrooms friend.

 

Side question - how much would it delay our rebuild if Chauncey is a crap coach?

 

seems like there are several different definitions of rebuilds in this thread. And some pretty liberal definitions of when the rebuild could be counted as a success

Portland went into a rebuild mode in 2003-04. They spent 5 years in the lottery, then three 1st round exits, then the rebuild crashed and two more years in the lottery. 10 years...7 lotteries

 

maybe it wouldn't because in a rebuild, losses are the foundational bricks of high lottery picks

 

You are essentially saying on June 24th, that there will not be any moves before the season starts? That seems unlikely to me.
It will not be for the all-star we all wanted, but it seems unlikely that Joe does not add someone better than what we could have gotten for 23. I would not be surprised if Murray was included in a deal with Ant for DDR.

 

Ok, firstly, we didn't go into rebuild until 04-05. That was the year we fired Cheeks and put Pritchard in as coach to tank. We were still trying to win in 03-04. I know this because I was there

Also, another main difference is that the rebuild started with a foundation of Sebastian Telfair, Darius Miles, and Zach Randolph.

Things didn't turn around until we got Roy/LMA. Roy and LMA were drafted in 06-07 and we were back in the playoffs in 08-09. So within two years of drafting Roy and Aldridge, we were back in the playoffs. The only reason why that was derailed was because of the health of Roy and Oden. If Those three players stayed healthy, we might have won a ring. We would not have gone back into the lottery. That was bad luck.

So the rebuild started in 04-05 and was done in 08-09. Three years of tanking and being crappy until we were back in the playoffs.

Do you think technically our rebuild started two years ago? We have the foundation. We're not starting from scratch. Scoot and Shae are both young, talented, and healthy. Hopefully they're our Brandon Roy/Dame and we can try to go get our star forward.

 

No I'm saying that Dame said that if the team wants to go the youth route that's not the route for him... that's what the dude said, then the team went all youth on draft day and since then Dame hasn't talked with the team but his agent has in Joe's words constantly. To me that does actually signify that there will be a lot of movement between now and the start of the season. I think we'll trade Dame, Nurk and sign and trade Jerami.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that Joe salvages things with Dame and we try to do this asinine two timelines bullshit. I'm saying that's not what Dame said he wanted, he said he was done with youth and wanted the team to concentrate on adding win now known talent. Maybe we will have Dame and Jerami on the roster along with some additional win now talent on opening day, it's just not the way things seem they're going to me.