Anyone miss Stotts?

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  1. Charcoal Filtered

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    Nope. Great guy and wish him well in MIL.

    It took Will Barton getting traded to Denver and no one being available at guard for CJ to get minutes. He rode his starters too hard and did not allow players on the end of the bench to grow.
     
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    Tince Well-Known Member

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    These are some weird narratives.
    • CJ had injuries to start his career and was behind Wes Matthews, who got a max contract based off how well he played in Portland.
    • He was starting guys that were end of the bench players elsewhere and actually made the majority of them the most productive they've ever been
    • Very very few of the players he didn't play much went elsewhere to be significant contributors. As noted before, the opposite was more likely to happen.
     
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    Casuals? Hah.
     
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    Great guy, but like Chauncey he is not the coach to get us a few more wins. Talent trumps coaching, but there are probably 10 or so games a year where coaching can either win or lose you games
     
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    Ah, I miss these discussions, where you attribute players looking good here to Stotts without specific reasons, while I attribute them to Dame (and to a lesser extent, CJ) being able to generate them open looks.

    People need to move on.
     
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    Not sure what your definition of a good coach is? Pretty sure if a guy has been in and around the league as long as Stotts who also happens to have a championship ring he a good coach. I'm also betting you could ask most any of the players he coached other than maybe Nurk who doesn't seem to like any coach what they felt about him and they would disagree with you.
     
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    This conversation will continue while Billups continues to underperform. IMHO Chauncey has one more year to get things going. If he cannot make it out of the lottery again then it might be time to move on. Blazers need to upgrade the roster then either perform with Chauncey or go after a top notch coach.
    Unfortunately we might be stuck in this cycle until we see new ownership.

    Tough being a Blazer fan sometimes.
     
  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, Blazers need to upgrade the roster. However, if they don't, it will be difficult to blame Chauncey for another lottery berth.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No. I look forward to missing people bringing him up as if he coached the team to great heights and multiple trips to the finals tho.
     
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    No....because he would have coached them to a 1st round Playoff sweep and we wouldn't have Sharpe or Scoot.
     
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    But we blamed Stotts?
    My thinking is it also might be the coach that can bring in talent as well as play the game the talent he has can play. If Chauncey can only coach players that play the way he wants to coach then it's time to get a new coach that can adjust to the players he has. This is exactly why many feel Stotts was a very good coach. He coached the players he had and got the most out of them. As has been pointed out it cost the team lottery picks.....
     
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    Just ribbing the folks who were so confident getting rid of him would be a noticable improvement.

    I realize some are too dug into their belief to come back!
     
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    I miss his blank stares off into a distance so far away that I can't imagine it and I miss him saying, "Their shots were falling and ours just weren't." or some shit like that.
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    Don't miss that guy either.

    Haven't heard anything, and wouldn't expect to, considering he was fired after an investigation... Not exactly in the same boat as Stotts, who isn't a piece of shit.
     
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    If we got someone who was an improvement, it'd be an improvement.

    Move on.
     
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    You don't seem to mind when people attribute players under-performing/utilization to Stotts; is it a one way thing?

    This thread is about Stotts and is clearly titled as so. If you have moved on from him, great; it's probably best. If others want to discuss him (I said I don't miss him), then that should also be allowed. I'd guess if I watched a recent show of yours, I'd find an example where you mention someone who hasn't been in the organization for 2 years as well. With a new breed of people putting too much weight of the teams success on Billups, I think it's appropriate for those with an open-minded to see how history works so they don't repeat it.

    If I had been banging the "Stotts is an awful coach and is hold back" drum, I would want the topic to never be revisited as well. So I guess in that regard, I get the stance.
     
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    If Terry Stotts was a good coach, it wouldn't have taken him two years to get a job...... as an assistant.
     
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    He was an awful X's and O's coach.
     
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    He and Nate McMillan both went to the school of "give the ball to your best player and get out of his way."

    Dame should have been getting a commission for Terry's checks.
     
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    100%... I said that back in the day. I also said I didn't think it was likely the replacement would be a significant improvement and therefore the coaching issue shouldn't be as belabored as it was.

    If you're uncomfortable with discussing a topic, then I would suggest not clicking on the thread. You're smart, you opened this thread knowing there would be some people saying Stotts wasn't a bad coach, and now you're contributing to the topic.

    I'm going to continue to discuss the topic despite your advice to move on. I'm guessing there a few issues that are behind us that you belabor as well.
     

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