That's from 3 days ago. Both Marc Spears and Mike Richman said otherwise today. Cronin has lied in our faces for two years straight and NOW is the time you want to believe him? Okay. Have at it.
But there is precendence to get around it. It is like me putting up a sign on my car saying "don't steal this" It could bring more attention to the asset which could mean you want it more.
What is there to agree or disagree on? Dame saw what Cronin did the last two years and felt strung along. Cronin wasn't building around Dame. That's why he asked out. Regardless of the #3 pick, Dame gave Cronin a week to make a deal in other ways and he didn't do it. If you want to believe that Cronin was building around Dame the last two years after giving GP2 and Hart away for draft picks then okay... no evidence will convince you otherwise.
I sure hope this organization doesn't plan on a 7-10 year rebuild with a plan of tanking for the next 2-4 years and picks way out. And any pick should be one owned by a team not in contention soon. If all we get is a bunch of picks out to 2028,29 & 30 its going to be a long 6-8 years.
If it's 4 teams, I'm thinking something like this: We get six picks. We get some young guys. We can kick the tires on Simmons. Scoot/Simons Sharpe/Thybulle/Keon Grant/Martin/Jaquez/Rupert Simmons/Jovic/Murray/Walker Claxton/Badji/JBJ I think we end up getting rid of Keon and JBJ. It would be really hard to figure out a rotation with all those young guys.
Yeah... that's the main issue. That's why I tossed in Little but I'm wondering what we would need to include to get Claxton. I want Claxton.
I really hope this thing gets dragged on so this thread can reach 316 pages. As the greatest Blazer of all time, Dame deserves to have the longest thread - NOT Carmelo.
I think (I've already said I think Hart was probably suboptimal) that there was only one way to get Dame help at the deadline or this summer--clear as much off the books and get as many firsts as possible. He did both. Did he fail to get a trade using all of those things ? Yep. Were we getting Zion for Hart and Simons and #3, but NOT for #23, Simons and #3)? I don't think so. But the process used was to clear salary and accumulate picks to get someone Dame wanted in here. The league didn't play ball with him, and he didn't want to waste Scoot for something lame and needle-stagnant. I don't know that that's "lying". Just like (until and if it comes out that the Vulcans said NO) I'm not mad that we couldn't get a S&T with one of the marquee free agents (like, say, Draymond). We didn't have the powder and/or Dame didn't have the juice. That's on Cronin, too...but I don't know that it means he lied and purposefully dissed Dame.
Yeah Marks is one of the most useless people they have at ESPN. His trades are always one sided and I heard him on a podcast say that he doesn't really stay in contact with anyone but just tries to look at things from each team's perspective when he posits this bullshit.
Here is my new batshit insane trade. Clears out some room on our team, brings in a ton of young talent, and we get an assload of picks. Scoot/Lowry Shaedon/Thybulle/Keon Simmons/Martin/Jaquez/Rupert Grant/Jovic/Clowney/Murray Claxton/Collins/JBJ
Keeping this in mind… The Cavaliers sent Jazz forward Lauri Markkanen, rookie wing Ochai Agbaji, guard Collin Sexton, three unprotected first-round picks (2025, 2027 and 2029) and two pick swaps (2026 and 2028) for Mitchell. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...-utah-jazz-star-donovan-mitchell?platform=amp
I have come to the conclusion that there is no use in trying to add logic to this topic. Some people think Joe is a liar. I actually would be impressed if he was that good of an actor. Maybe Olshey taught him a few of his soap opera tricks.