One comment I heard on NBA radio that I found interesting was that the Jazz might want to get involved in the trade. Not for Dame but that Ainge might be willing to be that 3rd or 4th team and take on Herro for draft picks. I assume they would have to send out matching salaries to someone.
I wouldn't trade him if I were the Nets. There have been a lot of rumors about them wanting to since February and more recently. Could it be that they don't want to pay him? They could think the money is better spent elsewhere. They still have another young center in Day'Ron Sharpe. Could he be ready? He's cheaper and under contract for 2 more seasons. I have read or heard somewhere they may want KAT, Ayton or some other big prize they value. So not tying money up in Claxton could be a reason. Maybe getting Hero is enough or Ant or both. I am not sure. But with all the guard play necessary these days, they could value that more than Claxton. It could be cutting Miami out with Dame and Nurk going to Brooklyn, if the Blazers could get Dame to be more flexible. Nic isn't perfect by any means and I am sure we will all be able to find faults if he happens to come here. Who knows, I am not holding my breath it will happen though
That's the problem is, it seems many teams will take on Herro for picks, but that doesn't help a 3 team deal when the team sending Herro already doesn't have enough assets to complete the deal. We don't need someone to take on Herro because of his salary, we need someone to give value for him to us.
Lets be a bit more realistic perhaps about what we can get back for Dame. Yeah he's really good "now", but he's 33 with 4 yrs at 216 mi remaining, that's IMO reduces somewhat his "value" in a trade. I will be very pleased as a Blazer fan to have that contract off the books
And while people in Portland seem to value Simons over Herro, most people I have talked to in other cities think that Herro is better. Really puts into perspective how much value Simons has.
I think @Pinwheel1 was saying that the Jazz would be giving up draft picks for Herro. I don't think Herro has negative trade value. He's young, has good experience, he's a lights out shooter and a hard worker on defense. Pinwheel please correct me if I'm wrong.
Right but we're hearing from multiple reports that the Nets and Spurs are interested in Herro. I also didn't think that Ant was seen that way. I thought Cronin wanted a return like OG and Ant isn't as valuable as OG but again that doesn't mean he has negative or even neutral trade value... it just means that our front office overvalues our players.
I find it hard to believe that, if that was a genuine offer, that we wouldn't've traded Dame and Nurk yesterday. Who is this DroppingDimesxx anyway? (Trying not to think how old I will be in 2030, the last of those first rounders.)
Yes, thank you. The talking head was saying Ainge values Herro and would be willing to send out picks /players for him. My guess is maybe Clarkson/THT to Miami and the picks to us? More would have to be included but the point is the Jazz might help facilitate the deal.
What are you basing that on? Multiple sources said we offered Ant and multiple firsts for OG on Friday. The raptors said no. What other players do we have? Are you willing to send Sharpe out to get OG and make Dame happy?
Not sure how the potential OG trade says we overvalue our players. Joe just wasn't willing to include #3.
If I was Joe I would proudly own that. There's no damn way I'm sending out Shaedon Sharpe for OG. That doesn't even make us a contender. Massive overpay. I just don't see the trade that would have made us a good team, and I think Dame asks out anyway. Siakam? Wouldn't commit to an extension with anyone but Toronto. Bridges? We offered #3 and Simons. Multiple times. They said no. Would people have been okay with sending out Sharpe as well? I would not. I think Scoot is an overpay for Bridges. Paul George? There was some rumors. I heard we offered 3 and Simons and they said no, but I'm not sure if that's true. Zion? Reportedly was never on the table. They offered 14 and future picks for 3. Bam? I think we meme'd an offer for Bam. I just don't see what trade was out there to make us a contender. If Embiid was available that would have been worth a discussion, but that was never out there. I don't buy this shit from some people that "a good GM just makes things happen." If there's nothing out there, how do you "make things happen?" And then you have Dame shooting us in the foot with his constant need to do podcasts and interviews.
