Matisse Thybulle Signs Full-MLE Offer with Mavericks / Blazers match

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  1. illmatic99

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    Houston just gave Dillon Brooks a 4 yr 80 mil deal. Matisse is better.
     
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    Why do you think this got to Haynes first?
     
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    even easier decision
     
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    Is that rhetorical? I think it got to Haynes because Haynes has carried a lot of water for Goodwin during this Dame drama.
     
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    Exactly. You need some good character vets in the locker room. You can’t just have a bunch of young guys.

    You know what happens when it’s just a bunch of young guys and no vets? You become the Memphis Grizzlies and Houston Rockets.
     
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    If that's true then it is a very easy decision to match.
     
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    Yes rhetorical
     
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    Matisse has just requested a trade to the Dallas Mavericks if the Blazers don't add veterans. He doesn't want to play with 19 year olds.
     
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    I like the skillset a lot. I like a MLE-level contract just fine. Matching doesn't kill us. And having some switchable wing defenders may be useful.

    I haven't gone through the numbers (at work now) but I remember DAL as being close to the tax line. Full NTMLE caps them at the first apron. At 12M-ish to start a NTMLE, that's interesting.
     
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    GP2weeks is also repped by Goodwin btw.
     
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    And if it's true that Seth Curry signed for the BAE (didn't see confirmation of that yet), then they don't have the TPMLE to use (can't use TPMLE if you've done a Room, NTMLE or BAE). They can use NTMLE to get to the Apron but are hard-capped. Apron is only $7M above the tax line, so if DAL is less than 5M short of the tax line right now they can't sign for the full NTMLE, even if they have it all.
     
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    I don't actually think GP2 did us as dirty as a lot of people here do. I think that was all on the Warriors organization. He didn't go to bat for us after being traded like Hart did but I don't hate the dude.
     
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    Oh this is interesting.
     
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    I think the NEW CBA has drastically cut the level of the tax-MLE it's 5M this season:

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    in other words, if a team uses more than 5M of their MLE, they are using the non-Tax MLE and they will be hard-capped. Since Dallas signed Seth Curry with the BAE, they would appear to only have their non-tax-MLE to use

    looking at the Dallas Spotrac page,

    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/cap/

    it says Dallas is at a shade under 153M with about 12.5M in margin below the tax line and an 18M margin below the hard cap apron. But I don't think the salaries of the two Dallas 1st round picks are accounted for so that would take 7.5M off of both of those margins
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    as for matching, it's always a balancing act, and the advisability on match will depend on the level of annual salary compared to when Portland is after a Dame trade. If Thybulle is making 7-9M year, it's an easy match. But if he's making 13-14M year it's not
     
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    ELITE defender
     
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    I think we'll match the offer easily..just hope that he wants to play here ...bottom line
     
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    RFA is a way to get your market value. Too bad Kahn isn’t GMing the Mavs…
     
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    I think if we do match it will eith be because he’s ok in Portland or for a sign and trade
     
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