If it's Lowry, Robinson, and 2 FRPs then yeah they can rot in hell while Dame rots on our bench. I just don't think it will come to that. I really hope that Joe is hunting offers from other teams and not just waiting for them to come to him.
That's just not happening. Even in our best case scenario, we're not getting within a mile of fair value. Jovic and Jaquez are not fair value for Dame. There is a very good chance that neither of those guys will make it in the NBA. We are sitting on the precipice of the worst superstar trade of all time.
I don't think it would be "the worst superstar trade of all time" if we got two prospects (that you are low on but I'm not) and 4 unprotected FRPs. I am hoping for more and like I just said I hope Joe is burning up the phones trying to find better deals, either just to pull the trigger on or to leverage against Miami.
They have to free up that third FRP, they have to give up young players with upside and either we or they have to find the best return for us on Herro.
Sure, 4 picks would be nice, but I'm saying that if Miami is trying to play hard ball and they're just tossing some crap package at us with 2 picks and a couple players, that would be the worst superstar trade of all time.
Well said! Was listening to Steve Smith & some other absolute dumb-fuck on NBA TV last night. These idiots were talking about Cronin’s presser yesterday and, how, “he was just trying to drive up some sort of semblance of trade value” and “leverage”… since, you know—and I quote—“Miami is in the driver’s seat & has ALL of the leverage here.” They kept going on & on & on about how they would only have to offer the equivalent of a couple of half-eaten shit sandos for Dame & how we had no choice to accept their shit-bird offer. I would MUCH RATHER Dame sits out the next three seasons, declines his PO in year 4, AND walks without any compensation, than take back their herpes-laden package.
I'm with you and I think Joe is with you. After Miami let guys go and is now inactive in free agency they can't afford to not pick up Dame. We are the ones with the leverage and the closer training camp gets the more nervous Miami has to get. I'll say it again, I hope Joe is calling other teams and soliciting from them what he thinks Dame would be worth to them. If he secures the right offer he should just pull the trigger if he wants or he could take it to Miami to see if they could beat it. We need to be patient but we also need to be aggressive right now.
Agreed and the key for me is getting back a player for Herro, not necessarily a pick. I am not expecting a star but he should bring back one good player.
As long as Cronin is comfortable taking Dame into next season ALA Harden in Houston, Harden in Brooklyn, Simmons in Philly etc. the Heat have no real leverage. Blazers don't have anything to lose by waiting.
Sure, you could “argue” that, but that’s NOWHERE NEAR adequate value for Dame… I don’t care what the rest of the scenario entails.
Who says no? I think if Simmons will play PF then this would be the best team Dame has ever had. It's a bit of a gamble for NOLA but they're just giving up Zion, Daniels and CJ for Dame. I don't think that's a bad trade considering the risk we're taking on with Zion.
I'm not sure what NOP wants to do... there were all those rumors about them wanting to trade for Scoot, but then the rumor was that they only offered the 14th pick and some future picks for 3. So I don't think they'd do it.
Something "kind of similar" to a no-trade clause? What the fuck is this? Either he has one or he doesn't. Plain and simple.
Seriously if you listen to some of these Heat fans, it's like we've been in the lottery for the past 10 years. Yes, this team has been mostly mediocre, but they're acting like we've been one of the worst teams in the league this entire time. I would trade Dame to literally any other team at this point. Even the Lakers.
After Summer League, it is my sincere hope that the entire Blazers' FO goes on a long vacation. Just let Dame, Miami and the rest of the League stew.
A vacation would be good, like an accounting problem you're stuck on, take a break come back to it and bing bango bongo, there it is.
